AZ Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Christian Artists | Fox News Interview


– Well, supporters are
calling it a huge win for religious freedom, while critics say it’s
nothing but a license to discriminate. The Arizona Supreme Court ruling in favor of a pair of Christian artists who say their religious faith would be violated if
they were forced to comply with a Phoenix ordinance
that would not allow them to decline work for same
sex marriage invitations. – Today’s victory is not a win just for Breanna Koski and me. It’s a victory for everyone. Everyone should be free to
peacefully live and work according to their beliefs without fear of unjust punishment. – The ruling’s not without
limits and does leave some unanswered questions. So let’s bring in one of those artists, co-owner of Brush and
Nib Studio, Joanna Duka, and from the Alliance
Defending Freedom Attorney, Kristen Waggoner, great to have you both with us. – Thank you.
– Thanks for having us. – Okay, so I want to play something that the Phoenix Mayor Kate Gallego said in response to the ruling. Here’s what she said. – Freedom of religion does not
mean freedom to discriminate. Personal convictions cannot be used as an excuse for outward bigotry. If you serve someone in your community you should serve all
people in our community. As Paul Smith, a First Amendment expert, so eloquently put it, “We’ve never allowed a commercial business to justify discrimination
against a protected class based on the First Amendment, we shouldn’t start now.” – Joanna, how do you feel having the win and then this reaction from
some within the community? – Breanna and I could not be
more thrilled with this win. We serve all people, we just can’t express every
message through our artwork. This was a great decision
for every American who values their freedom. Breanna and I have loved art
since we were little girls, and creating this business
was a dream for us. So when we came up
against this Phoenix law that was threatening us with jail time we were extremely concerned
and had to stand up. So we were relieved
about this ruling today. – And, Kristen, I mean you’ve taken on a number of these cases. I want to read something
else that the Mayor tweeted and get your response. She says, “The ruling
was extremely narrow, and because of that
narrowness there has been some misinterpretations stating
that it struck down the entire city ordinance, that is false. Our anti-discrimination
ordinance still stands and is going nowhere. So what does, what
doesn’t the decision mean? – The decision is one of
the strongest and most well-written decisions on free speech that I’ve seen in my career. In fact, the decision itself opens by saying that free speech
and free exercise rights are not limited to the
soft murmurings that go on in churches or in private homes, but that all Americans have
the right to be able to use and sell words, paintings, and to create art that is
consistent with their convictions. So this doesn’t just
protect Joanna and Breanna, it protects people of all faiths and people with no faiths to be able to express their views consistent with who they are. – I want to read something from
the former Mayor of Phoenix because this ordinance is not brand new, their previous
administration involved said, “This decision will harm
our economy by sending the unfortunate message
that discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation is still acceptable by some state leaders. That is the sad legacy of this decision.” Joanna, how do you
respond to those who say this is hurtful to certain
people in the community, that it is bigotry and discrimination? – I would say, again,
Breanna and I serve everyone, we just can’t communicate
every message through our art, and that’s a freedom that
every artist should have. And so we think this is
a great day for Arizona and for artists everywhere because the Arizona Supreme
Court affirmed freedom and the right of artists
not the government to make those expressive decisions. – And, Shannon, the statistics tell us, research tells us that nine out of the ten best states for business
in the United States don’t have these laws, and 12 of the 13 worst states do. So that’s simply not true. – We know that there are more cases on a collision course,
potentially, to the Supreme Court and we’re watching those as well. There will be more and
more of these conflicts. So, Kristen and Joanna,
thank you for joining us after your victory last week. – Thank you. – Thanks so much for having us.

7 thoughts on “AZ Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Christian Artists | Fox News Interview

  • We drive by church after tax-free church, dead to The Lord, a burden to the community, and useless save the way they meet to justify one another’s sin.

    But they are left alone to practice their “thing” in peace. But they just have to force “things” on others. If it’s not the Ten Commandments in a courtroom, then it’s the color of Starbucks coffee cups. It wouldn’t concern me in the least if they weren’t portraying my King in some silly light, and turning away those who might otherwise be truly saved.

    Hurrah! They got their court ruling. I’m sure the Pharisees are happy. Carry on !!

  • Founded by some 30 leaders of the Christian Right, the Alliance Defending Freedom is a legal advocacy and training group that has supported the recriminalization of homosexuality in the U.S. and criminalization abroad; has defended state-sanctioned sterilization of trans people abroad; has linked homosexuality to pedophilia and claims that a “homosexual agenda” will destroy Christianity and society. ADF also works to develop “religious liberty” legislation and case law that will allow the denial of goods and services to LGBT people on the basis of religion. Since the election of President Donald Trump, the ADF has become one of the most influential groups informing the administration’s attack on LGBT rights working with an ally in Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

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