Black Book of Communism Debunked



the black book of communism one of the largest most blatant distortions of history the fraudulent death tolls contained the book are the single most quoted anti-communist source in the world the book not only bashes socialism and makes them to be worse than fascism it outright portrays fascism as a good thing the book is so biased and absolutely BS that in 2001 the Maoist international movement informed Harvard University Press with undeniable errors as a result mem actually got Harvard University presses mark Cramer to admit the book contained a so-called remedial math errors in the book it superficially tells of how all these people supposedly died in famines caused by the evil communists very telling is how they leave out any comparison to famine deaths in capitalist countries so that we may compare by doing so they claim that famines are a problem only in socialism the book also makes this big deal about premature deaths in communist countries with no statistical comparisons of these deaths and capitalism the reason why is of course that for both the Soviet Union and revolutionary China they double the life expectancy of their peoples the fact is the deaths caused by communism are substantially less than the massive death tolls left by capitalism the main weapon these Bhoots water writers use is a complete lack of scientific thinking poverty under capitalism a system of private property kills by a lack of food a decent environment inadequate healthcare never does anyone put capitalism up to it's own analysis and judging by how it judges others while it claims communism killed a hundred million people capitalism kills a hundred million people every eight to twelve years the one-sided nature of the accusations are revealed in this quote on page 15 our purpose here is not to devise some kind of macabre comparative system for crunching numbers well no of course not well that would be giving context to an argument by comparing it to similar events Courtois one of the writers claims that Stalin became a fascist when he signed a pact with Hitler in 1939 he called it a crime and it forgets to mention all the capitalist countries that signed agreements with Hitler Poland France and England all signed deals with Hitler Stalin was actually the last one to do so when criticizing the Soviet Union they never mentioned the pro-nazi risings instead they claim that the Soviet Union's suppressed people for no reason then they turn and say people flock to the pro-nazi groups because of the repression but neglect to mention that the pro-nazi groups that existed in the capitalist countries gapless countries must have been more repressive because the Nazi v calls overthrew entire countries nearly without effort those people must have really hated those oppressive capitalist regimes well the Soviet Union was not overthrown by pro-nazi forces in fact communist guerrillas in many countries gave the best resistance in 1940 former Norwegian defence minister helped the Nazis overthrow the government of Norway in 1940 Henry Philippe Petain a former command in chief led the notch avicii Leopold the third gave Belgian to the Nazis without a fight Sweden profited from Nazi gold taken from Jews killed in the Holocaust future US Secretary of State John Foster Dulles aided the Swedish government Finland joined the Nazi side in 1941 Hungary and Bulgaria joined the Nazis with no contest the arrogance of Courtois is astounding he point out how there were Nazi collaborators in the Soviet Union but fails to mention how entire capitalist countries outright supported the Nazis this in the example of deliberately slanting history in favor of the fascists in this section on the Ukrainian famine claim that the Soviet grain requisitions must have caused mass starvation of course at no time did he mention the right of people living in cities not to starve to death from 1923 to 1928 there was a free market in grain production in 1928 the amount of grain that was sent to the cities to feed people dropped to four point eight million tons from 6.8 million the previous year this inability of the free market to meet human need is what compelled Stalin to collectivized agriculture the market had already failed to deliver effect constantly overlooked by historians and the ignorance of anti-communism the failure of capitalism is ignored only the socialist reaction to a capitalist disasters mentioned integrity is not something anti-communists are known for all along some of the fiercest resistance to doing the right thing centered in the Ukraine and Wirth says Ukrainian famine was the largest death toll that Stalin was responsible for that a Ukrainian equivalent of the US breadbasket the states like Iowa or Kansas worth admitted as much in the concluding throwaway sentence the richest in most dynamic agricultural regions which had the most to offer the state and the most to lose in the extortionate system of enforced collectivization where precisely the region's worse affected by the Great Famine of 1932 233 the fact that these areas where the equivalent of Iowa should have been a clue that having the peasants just keep their food was not an option that should have been suggested lightly in 1929 more than 3200 Soviet civil servants suffered terrorist attacks 1300 riots spread to the countryside in the years 1928 to 29 this is one indication of the class war going on they had a history behind them of a movement called the greens that also resisted requisitions of food to the city in the midst of this sort of political resistance many Ukraine's resisted delivering grain to the state Wirth says that in response Stalin starved for million of them to death in 1932 to 33 for a total of six million when other regions of the Soviet accounted for being in a similar situation in fact other boudoir media like The Village Voice of January 12 1988 has already debunked the idea that there was this massive Ukrainian famine it was tremendously exaggerated and was mostly created by Ukrainian fascists the paper caught them in the act of fraud in propaganda creation robert conquests who did this great work in the supposed Ukrainian famine collected all of his information from Nazi collaborators and fiction books the Nazis are hardly a reliable source of information the sources and invented numbers were so fraudulent at the Village Voice refer to the famine as a hoax we're worth in Quora agree is that the political choice of some peasants to resist delivering grain to the state is not an act of violence in itself against the city dwellers even though realistically food has to come from farmland especially in the Ukraine another lands in question they speak of the land as if they were the property of peasants who live on it the peasants cut back their work only to grow their own grain and contrary to law northern Courtois defend them indeed worth comes out openly and saying his approach depends on not recognizing Soviet law he said that destruction of Soviet property and other items including speculation should not be counted as crimes in contrast we socialists are happy to deport such Ukrainian people as they were deported by Stalin and replace them with people who willing to do something with the fertile land because people's lives are at stake and we see political games played by Ukrainians on breadbasket land as violence against city dwellers the case of the Ukrainian breadbasket land is also important in reminding us why we have to oppose local control perfected under Tito's market socialism in Yugoslavia and also adopted by anarchists in Spain after revolution implementing local control people who happen to live on gold mines will become rich people who live on the best land will have an easier time farming and so on local control cannot be thought of as socialism just a switch of owners the central government has to play some role in the means of action or they're not truly socialists only when that day comes when people cooperate economically across large distances without coercion or reward will it be possible to take an easygoing approach to dividing up resources at the local level because no one would think of hurting people in the rest of the country or the world based on their fortunate local position Stalin did not gain from starving Ukrainian peasants unlike the way capitalist speculators who hoard food grain when peasants starve to say that Stalin did gain is a simple projection of life under capitalism to live under socialism where often politicians also personally gain from development weapons or other deals they broker personally in contrast the most bourgeois peasants in the USSR known as cool acts did gain monetarily and personally from speculation grain by letting the cities starve Stalin did not himself benefit from the new economic policy that allowed the free market in Grain it was the peasants in the countryside who actually trying to increase their own power for personal gain so our critic has the accusation against Stalin completely upside-down citing the work of a bloom worth no longer believed stolen mastermind the cure of assassination in 1934 it was the killing of Kira that resulted in a swing in public Soviet opinion towards a crackdown on dissident as world war ii was progressing notably the Japanese invasion of China in 1931 and the Italian invasion of Ethiopia in 1935 Wirth correctly believes Robert conquests work on the great terror to be exaggerated ma'am would say it's fictional according to worth eighty-five percent of the executions after the civil war in the Soviet Union while Stalin was still alive 1922 to 1953 occurred in the great terror sometimes referred to as the purges of 1936 to 1938 however worth says the number of executions has been vastly exaggerated the number was 680 1692 while everyone agrees that the majority of the executions occurred in the 1936 and 1938 period while the Soviet Union in Germany were already fighting each other in Spain the numbers range wildly Anton Antonov also vehicle said that the great terror was responsible for 19 million deaths from 1935 to 1940 one worth says the figure is seven hundred and twenty thousand this is just an indication of how wildly the bourgeoisie speculate against Stalin the purchase in the Red Army prior to World War two were previously exaggerated and affected thirty thousand out of a hundred and seventy eight thousand relevant cadres documented cases occurred where all mensheviks is said to be shot were not shot but imprisoned the famous Ukrainian anarchists Martin all organized bloody programs against the Jews in 1919 just as Lenin charged a picture continues to emerge of only Bolsheviks in the Ukraine is not anti-semitic also contrary to some anarchists today who paint the anarchist as blameless worth points out that the rebellion in class war against the Bolsheviks did continue until 1921 the Kronstadt rebellion did not occur in the context of social peace according to court wah and a co-author in 1937 Trotsky went to the French police to get the French communists Jacques de Klaus in trouble despite having no evidence against infirmary Trotsky wanted avenge Trotsky relied on the French police to find the evidence conduct the investigation to their credit the authors admitted that the criticism of Asian communists and therefore most of the criticisms of communism is speculative the reason is that they would like the government's there to fail so that they can see the archives before they pass judgment in total the entire black book details a hundred million deaths by communism most of that is supposedly caused by the Great Leap Forward it is claimed that 43 million were killed this supposed number comes from the highest possible estimate by Roderick mcfar kurz book contrary to MacFarquhar who details all the actions the Communist Party took and how mal made public self-criticism Margolin says mal refused to admit a problem during the Great Leap Forward he then goes on to list wartime atrocities in World War two by the communists in what is the most glaring piece of line which Harvard University Press claims is an error mcfar Kerr who misplaced a decimal in his writing to claim that Mao killed ten times more people we can only hope it was the editors or translators who introduced these errors but there were numerous basic mathematical errors in his chapter and no ma matter how one slices it the chapter does not reflect well on the authors or the editors the last province in north central China was the worst-affected of all in 1960 the death rate soared to 68 percent from his normal level around 15 percent while the birth rate fell to 11 percent from his previous average of 30 percent as a result the population fell by around 2 million people 6 percent in total in a single year the above is such a bungle that it is difficult to sort out all of the errors and curiously enough it refers to mark owns the biggest accusation at the provincial level the first number is actually 68 point 58 per thousand sixty eight percent is 6,800 once again we have an error in overestimating by a factor of ten what is worse is the stupidity in saying that the mortality rate was 68 percent but only six percent died in this way Margolin exceeds the stupidity of markers estimate of course the birth rates are similarly exaggerated by a fact of ten in a more obvious moralistic have-your-cake- and-eat-it-too Margolin denounces the regime in China for creating a situation where the birth rate fell to almost zero as women were unable to conceive because of malnutrition he does not realize that if that is true his death toll must be very low much less than the 20 million lower-end estimate he uses it's clear that he has never sat down to think through questions like what goes into creating a life expectancy figure further exceeding mcfar curve by covering more years with his ignorance Margolin says for the entire country the death rate rose from 11 percent in 1957 to 15 percent in 1959 and 1961 peaking at 29 percent in 1960 birth rates fell from 33 percent in 1957 to 18 percent in 1961 he even contradicts himself when he makes the claim that peasants were too weak to harvest grain because he turns around and claims that once capitalist style organizations were reintroduced the peasants quickly ended the famine which was it Margolin where the peasants too weak as the Great Leap Forward went on to harvest or just needing capitalist incentives nor does Margolin seemed to flinch at saying the worst year was actually 1961 after the Great Leap had ended in the wide scale private farming and systems tantamount to it had come into play these are basic mistakes that anyone doing proper research would notice right away but unfortunately this book was designed to bash people and movements not properly detailed people and movements like an academically honest work would do with regard to the charge of a hundred million dead from communism 85 million are from the Soviet Union and China 20 million are from the Soviet Union and 65 million are from China as we have just shown the crucial linchpins to that argument concern a famine reported by Nazi collaborators in the Ukraine and a great leap toll where the repeated and obvious arithmetic errors were published in the book together these two items account for 49 million out of a hundred million alleged victims the book goes on to treat other countries as well but those countries are all said to stem from the same Leninist genetic code many of these other regimes in Courtois attack are not communist and as usual they omit significant facts such as the landslide sandanista victories portion of the population that was won in the bush water style election one of the fact that their notion of responsible for deaths in the case of the Sendero Luminoso refers mostly to the indiscriminate killings carried out by the government but which the Senora lumen also is responsible for because they started a civil war the black book sold 7,000 copies in four weeks in France of course the Wall Street Journal endorsed it as well as most of the rest of the boudoir press many of the book reviews can be seen by visiting Mims a book store under the reviewed books and going through the Amazon book store link for the black book the positive views can be taken as an indication of the lack of historical knowledge of some the weakened quantitative skills of others and the overall conscious distortion of the bourgeoisie in the end the amount of international women agrees a Courtois has recognized the truth about the media it will buy anything anti-communist despite his correct recognition of the nature of the monopoly capitalists media Courtois will fail in his goal because the truth regarding the overall situation it's already widely available and cannot be exorcised from history by selective compilation of statistics or gruesome detail of death on one side of the capitalism versus communism conflict despite the whining of christians and other intellectuals and former party members noting nothing will eradicate that fact that the average person lived longer and socialism than under capitalism you

45 thoughts on “Black Book of Communism Debunked

  • But muh 1 quintillion Stalin deaths!

    But muh Nazi socialists!

    But merica good! Double world war back to back sole winners!

    But muh China Tiannenman square!

    Communist bad!

    Muh god hates communists!

  • Say that shit while beeing in a communist country and see how long you last, even kissing their balls you would be eliminated, cuz who knows when you’re going to flip right? You spew your verbal diarrhea in a country that is DEMOCRATIC and gives you the freedom to do so right?Faggot ass shit for brains!

  • 3:27
    A lot of those countries had no realistic chances of resisting the German military. The German had complete control of Romania within 2 hours of entering it's borders. Bulgaria is half as big, they would have to be crazy to put up a fight.

  • That book was published five years after the cold war. Both side had propaganda, this one might be too.

  • Defenders of Leninism disconcert and discourage me. They make me angry at first but eventually, after I settle down and reflect, they make me sad. Since the opening of the Soviet archives we have access to facts surrounding the monstrous crimes of the Bolsheviks. So, how can there still be apologists? Answer: ignorance. You dispute the numbers cited in the book. That’s your argument? When we’re talking about hundreds of thousands or even millions of people are you seriously going to disregard the unspeakable injustice of their tyranny and quibble over the specific numbers? Lenin, Stalin and their Bolshevik henchmen manifested hell on earth. To defend their criminal system only serves to reveal your regrettable ignorance. My advice: do some hard research and objectively look at the evidence. I think you’ll find you are making the wrong argument.

  • robert conquest should be tried at a international court as a terrorist that wrote propaganda that hurt the whole human race, his books were a crime against humanity.

  • Nope. Everyone knows that Stalin killed the entire population of planet earth and then conspired with alien grays to import human clones so that he could kill 78 billion more.

  • 1:50 Do you really believe what you just said?
    Anyway, happy to hear the word bourgeois used in a non-parody context for the first time in decades

  • This has nothing to do with capitalism. It is about an evil system — Communism — which my family experienced and even I experienced. How do you have the lack of honesty to try to deny the deaths of our fathers, uncles, aunts. All I can do is hope that one day you either realise the error of your ways in justifying mass murder, or failing that, let's hope you get a taste of "Existing Socialism" as the Communists called it. If you survive, you'll sing another tune, trust me. Shame on you!

  • One of my favorite books on this topic is by Grover Furr, it's titled "Blood Lies". The book debunks all the misinformation contained in Timothy Snyder's much lauded book "Bloodlands".

  • The Black Book of communism is total bullshit, but you have to look at the late Soviet government analyses of the crimes of the Stalinist era. The 1932 famine killed 2 million people, and it was directly caused by abrupt collectivization of all farming. This destroys farming knowledge, and transfers farming to less efficient collective farms, which are run like modern American factory farms. This is much less productivity per acre, but it's more productivity per worker. The goal was to get labor into the cities for the industrialization program of the 1st 5 year plan. The result worked, but there was a year of terrible famine, which claimed 2 million lives, and traumatized a young Mikhail Gorbachev, making him not a fan of the USSR government policy for life, and indirectly leading to the end of the USSR. The revolt associated with the 1932 land confiscations led to 700,000 executions. The 1933 harvest was good, so the famiine ended then.

    The Chinese collectivization of the great leap forward led to a three year famine which claimed about 15 million lives. This is from Chinese statistics, and it is accurate. The estimates in the Black Book are demographic, and include the deferred births.

    The proper "death toll of communism" is the sum of the famines, 18 million deaths, plus the executions in the USSR, about 1.2 million. That's the total. You have to state it honestly, not lie like a capitalist.

  • HA! Commies are natural born liars and all around shit "people". It's why I feel no pity for taking part in gangrapes of commies. We jump some commie/antifa/SHARP/RASH, give him a good working over, toss him in the van then take turns raping him. His screams are muffled by the dirty jock strap in his mouth. I love the way they wriggle.

    Ramrod Rick
    Gay Aryan SkinHeads (GASH) United

  • Ever since the dawn of mankind, society is divided into a ruling class (slave owners, feudal landlords, capitalist tycoons) and an exploited class (slaves, peasants, wage laborers). Now Courtois wants to criminalize the exploited class for waging a war against the ruling class, with an astronomical number of unnecessary victims.

    Let us ask the following questions: Q1 how many people have been illed/tortured/jailed because of the existence of the class society and its associated morality, not in the framework of a class struggle (for example, the Indian victims in America, or the victims of WWI)? Q2 how many people have been killed/tortured/jailed in the framework of class struggle while being on the side of the exploited class? Q3 how many people have been killed/tortured/jailed in the framework of class struggle while being on the side of the ruling (exploiting) class? Q4 how many people have been killed/tortured/jailed unnecessarily by the exploited class although they did not substantially support the ruling (exploiting) class?

    We are responsible only for the number that emerges out of Q4. I think that this number is small in comparison to the numbers emerging out of Q1, Q2 and Q3. The number that emerges out of Q4 reflects our wrongdoings. And wrongdoings are always wrong, and should be avoided. Wrongdoings may follow from the fact that not all our people are angels. But this again follows from the fact that we live in a class society. Had the exploiting class surrendered is privileges, not a single hair would have fallen from anybody's had.

  • Ironic that no records exist of people swimming through shark-infested oceans to reach Communist countries. The opposite is true. People got killed and shot for trying to flee Communist countries – by the millions. And it is still happening TODAY!!!!

    Like this video, the deceptive, lying Communists would like to debunk all the thousands of novels, memoirs, non-fictional tales written by ex-Communists who managed to escape and tell their stories. Venezuela currently have people picking refuge bins for food – modern communism at work. Food lines existed all over the world for more than fifty years – ppl standing in line in hopes of finding SOMETHING TO EAT at the end of it. Famine is communism. All inner cities in the USA are currently controlled by fascist Communists, hiding like thieves and robbers behind the 'liberal socialism' labels. The most violent, oppressed areas in the United States. Don't forget the Siberian experiences of people who were sent there to die. As one sign at an entrance gate stated: "We will force people into happiness". Communism is the biggest enslavement of people all over the world. There IS NO FREEDOM OF ANY KIND under Communism!!!!

    Do more homework: the people who owned the slave ships were also the people who started Communism. An ironic twist of history that nobody is talking about. Now go solve this riddle. Your problem is that not everyone is so lazy-minded and stupid as to believe your claims. There are much more experienced intellectuals and scientists who do their homework thoroughly. Why aren't you living in a Communist country? Why don't you flee the USA? You don't have to. You can buy a plane ticket and leave without anybody stopping you. Why don't you? Who is currently terrorizing and traumatizing folks in the USA? The radical fascist who calls themselves ANTIFA (deceptive) – the shadow army of the Communist Left in America. Who is killing free speech? The Communists. Show us the model orphanages in China and Russia and try to convince us of that Nirvana.

    Who is preventing speakers at university campuses to tell their stories? The oppressing free-speech-killers – the Communist Leftists. You cannot face the people who fled these countries and share their experiences. YOU DON'T WANT THE WORLD TO KNOW!!!!
    You're nothing else but thieves, robbers and liars. You're too lazy to work, that's your problem.

  • Capitalism killed and still kills innocent Native people and Children too. If that's the case, which it is, Capitalism = Death to innocent people.

  • My cousins from the DDR want socialism back. They genuinely dislike life in the Bundesrepublik because they say that you have less time for yourself. Longer work days smaller pay, it’s not wassup.

  • Yeah, communismen never killed anyone, everyone lived happily ever after on pink fluffy clouds and no farmers was killed or got their stuff taken from them.

  • We( Bulgaria) joined the nazis because we had no other option. It was either join Hitler or be genocided by him
    Edit: we were also the only country that didn’t give any minorities to the fascists

  • There’s many accounts right from the people of China who in detail described the horrors of being under Mao. The first few years weren’t awful,but many people didn’t want to give up their belongings to the government..

    COMMUNISM IS GARBAGE!

  • Communism is shit. Just on the fact alone that government controls everything. The only reason socialism kinda works in small countries is because they use capitalism.. even they are failing.

    Dictatorship will always go bad. What happens every time? Killing political opponents and controlling the press. There’s so many things wrong with communism. Capitalism is the best system we’ve got. For progress of humanity and gives people the chance to get rich.

    Equal opportunity over equality of outcome!

    We have proper checks and balances. Still far from perfect but much better then anything else.

    Fu€k communism… you don’t need to speculate, you know how awful it would be just by reading the communist manifesto.

    Cultural Marxism is giving us ridiculous problems right now. The whole ideology is fu€ked! Seeing everything through race and gender.. none of that will help society. In fact all it’s done is separate us more. It’s extremely flawed.

  • Aren't they the same ones that are using propaganda in the New World order ?? Today through lies and propaganda tactics…. Who are the Nazis again?

  • Will say socialism is no saint either.why would you have to answer to someone that in power ,that is just as corrupt as the Crooks on the streets. And socialism is not doing a pretty good job either if they have to do underhanded things and deceive others into believing it is just.

  • So after watching more than half of the video and trying a few "sources" (who are badly indicated btw), it's pretty clear this video has not much to offer if you aren't willing to swallow propaganda of an ideology you like anyway.
    Some links are expired, ofcourse, but some of the others don't at all mention what the video talks about.

  • What massive death toll by capitalism? You need to explain yourself. The deaths by Communism have been explained many times in many ways. You are just talking out your ass.

  • (Jason): "Robert Conquest, who did this great work in the supposed Ukrainian famine, collected all his information from Nazi collaborators and fiction books."
    False. Read _Harvest of Sorrow_. It's heavily footnoted with Soviet sources and survivor accounts.
    I recommend __The Black Book of Communism__, also: …
    Alexander Barmine, One Who Survived
    Robert Conquest, Kolyma
    Ethan Gutmann, The Slaughter: Mass Killings, Organ Harvesting, and China's Secret Solution to Its Dissident Problem
    Heller and Neikrich, Utopia in Power
    Elinor Lipper, Eleven Years in Soviet Prison Camps
    Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
    Yang Jisheng, Tombstone

  • K, I'm at 9:33 into this and hate to say it but communism and capitalism same damn thing , by the way fuck communism! Do you huff paint in order to reach that kind of ideology ? Yeah no thanks

  • famines are caused by the weather so i dont see how any goverment can be blamed for them stalin may have totally failed to deal with the famine but he dident couse it.

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