‘Conversation with the Candidate’ special: Part 4


ADAM: ONE OVERRI
ARE DEMOCRATS MOVING TOO FAR TO
IS THE PARTY, AS PRESIDENT TRUMP
CONTENDS, EMBRACING SOCIALISM? ISM REALLY
MEAN IN THE 21’ST CENTURY?>>TO SOME EXTENT THIS
DISCUSSION ABOUT SOCIALISM
VERSUS
DISTRACTION, BECAUSE PURE
SOCIALISM, RIGHT, IN ITS PURE
FORM, WHICH IS GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING PRODUCTION, IS A
TERRIBLE IDE
WRONG ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION. BUT IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
HIICALLY, WE’VE BEEN A
CAPITALISTIC COUNTRY WITH STRONG
SOCI
AND THAT’S ALL WE GOT TO DO — THAT’S WHAT WE GOT TO GET BACK
TO. CAPITA
INNOVATION AND JOB-CREATION
MACHINE EVER, AND IT IS THE
REASON THE UNITED STATES IS THE
STRONGEST NATION IN THE WORLSAID
MODERATED CAPITALISM, RIGHT?DEVI IT’S HIGHLY DISRUPTIVE. WE MODERATED CAPITALISM WITH
HAVING A TAX CODE THAT’S FAI
SURE WORKERS HAVE RIGHTS. AND BY BUILDING SOCIETAL
INFRASTRUCTURE. SOCIAL SECURITY IS SOCIETAL
INTRUCTURE. PUBLIC EDUCATION IS SOCIETAL
INFRASTRUCTUMEDICARE IS SOCIETAL
INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WHAT’S HAPPENED OVER THE
LAST 20 YEARS IS WE STOPPED
DOING THAT STUFF. WE’VE BEEN FIGHTING, WE HAVEN’T
DONE ANYTHING. AND SO THERE’S BEEN TOO MUCH
DISRUPTION CAUSED BY KIND
CAPITALISM BEING UNCHECKED, IF
YOU WILL. SO MY SOLUTION IS NOT TO GET R
THAT’S A TERRIBLE IDEA. AND REPLACE IT WITH SOCIALISM,
THAT’S A DISASTER. BUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS MAKLISM
INCLUSIVE, AND THE WAY TO DO
THAT IS WITH TAX POLICY,
REGULATIONS, AND IMPORTANTLY,
SOCIETAL I
>>I THINK THERE IS A NEWER GENERATION WHO DO NOT LIVED TO
SEE THE DAYS WHEN SOCIALISM AND
COMMUNISM WERE VIEWED AS PRETTY
MUCH THE SAME THING. AND YOTHAT OR
YOU WERE FOR CAPITALISM AND
DEMOCRACY. I THINK A NEWER GENERATION THAT
DIDN’T LIVE THROUGH THE COLD WAR
IS ASKING ABOUT AL
THAT DEMOCRACY AND CAPITALISM
COME INTO TENSION. I THINK WE’RE A SOCIETY THAT IS
BUILT BY THE EXTRAORDINARY
PRODUCTIVE POWER OF CAPITALISM. BUT YOU CAN’T HAVE CAPITALISM,
IN MY VIEW, YOU CAN’T HAVEK WELL
ALSO HAVE A ROBUST DEMOCRACY
THAT CAN CONSTRAIN THE EXCESSES
OF THAT CAPITALISM. HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON’T HAVE
THAT, LOOK AT RUSSIA. SO JUST AS RUS
SIGN AROUND A CERTAIN KIND OF
COMMUNISM A GENERATION AGO
IT SHOWS YOU EXACTLY WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE PRIVATE
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS CRONYISM, OF COURSE. SO LABELS ARE GOING TO BE THROWN
ARESPECIALLY BY THIS
PRESIDENT, WHO SEEMS TO BE ON A
ING THIS AS A WAY TO
KIND OF SHUT DOWN DEBATE, AND
THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE EMBRACING THE LABELS. TO ME, I WANT TO MOVE THROUGH
THE LABELS AND JUST TALK ABOUT
WHAT WORKS. ADAM: AUDIENCE MEMBERS CAME FROM
ALL OVER NEW HAMPSHIRE TO
PART OF THESE CONVERSATIONS,
REPRESENTING THE CONCERNS AND
THE CONSTITUENTS OF DOZENS OF
TOWNS.OSE UNDECIDED VOTERS TO GET THEIR
THOUGHTS ON THE PROCESS. WHAT IS YOUR TAKE AWAY FOR YOU
OF SEEING SO MANY OF THESE
CANDIDATES
>>IT’S SPECTACULASHIRE, FIRST I
I’VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS,
AND WE’RE A NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF GOVERNMENT. AND I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE CANDIDATES BRING A
NATIONAL DISCUSSION INTO OUR
NEIGHBORHO
AND TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE
QUESTIONS DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN FIVE FEET OF THEM, THIS
IS HONT OF U
THE COMPASSION — I WANT TO
KNOW, ARE THEY COMPASSIONATE? DO THEY HAVE EXPERTISE? AND IT’S A DELIGHT. IT FEELS VERY PERSONAL, AND TO
BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS WITHANITE
PLEASURE. ADAM: AND ELIZABETH, YOU HAVEN’T
WITH SOME OF THE BIG QUESTIONS
IN TERMS OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES
FACING THESE CANDIDATES. WHY HAVE YOU MADE IT A
TO REALLY NOT FLINCH FROM SOME
OF THOSE BIG QUESTIONS?>>WELL, I THINK THAT I HAVE
TRIED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE FOR OUR
BE — WE SHOULD FEEL THAT WE CAN
ASK HARD QUESTIONS, AND THEY
NEED TCCOUNTABLE TO US. I’VE MADE IT A POINT TO SEE VERY
SINGLE CANDIDATE, AND I MADE IT
A POINT TO HEAR EVERY SINGLE
CANDIDATE, BEC
CANDIDATES TO HEAR ME.NT THE CAN
VOICE.G HARD QUESTIONS, WHY WOULDN’T I ASK
HARD QUESTIONS? THESE ARE HARD TIMES. AND IF YOU’RE GOING TO LEAD A 30
PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TOOM
NEW HAMPSHIRE. HARDEST QUESTIONS, THOUGH.>>YES.WHAT
DO YOU GET IN PERSON THAT YOU
MIGHT NOT GET AT A RALLY, IN
PERSON AS WELL, OR ON TVR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT?>>I THINK IT’S TOTALLY
DIFFERENT. I FEEL LIKE YOU REALLY GET A
CHANCE TO VET A PARTICULAR
CANDIDATE. THEY DO GET PUT ON THE SPOT. AFTER A WHILE, IT SEEMS LIKE
THEIMESH
TOGETHERTO BE ECHOING EACH
OTHER IN CERTAIN WAYS, WHICH I
FIND TO BE INTERESTING. WE JUST MOVED HERE, LIKE,
AND A HALF YEARS AGO FROM
MARYLAND, AND I’VE BEEN A
POLITICAL JUNKIE FOREVER,
I MEAN, THIS IS JUST GREAT. I’VE LEARNED QUITE A BIT ABOUT
THESE PEOPLE THAT I NEVER KNEW
BEFORE, AND I HAVE COME THAT
COMPASSIONATE THEY ARE ABOUT
THINGS, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED
THAT IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. ADAM: AS YOU SAW, THESE
CONVERSATIONS GOT INTENSE,
GOT EMOTIONAL, AND THEY GOT
PERSONAL. HERE ARE SOME OF THE MOMENTS
THAT OFFER A GLIMPSE INTO WHAT
SHAPED THESE CANDIDATES, WHATBRI
AND WHAT KEEPS THEM GOING EVERY
DAY.>>I WAS RAISED BY A SINGLE MOM. MY PARENTS DIVORCED IN GRADE
SCHOOL. LIVED PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. I ONLY KNEW THERE WAS A
GOVERNOR’S OFFIC
BECAUSE I DELIVERED NEWSPAPERS
TO IT. SO I’VE MADE IT FOUR BLOCKS IN. YEAH, SO WENT TO COLLEGE SIGHT
UNSEEN. THE IDEA OF COLLEGE WELL BEYOND. AND WORKED MY WAY THROUGH
COLLEGE. I PICKED UP MY CLASSMATES’
PLATES. I BORROWED MY WAY THROUGH LAW
SCHOOL. I THINK THAT GAVE ME A
PERSPECTIVE OF — BUT SOMEHOW I
STILL HAD THAT SHOT, RIGHT? GOING FROM DELIVERING NEWSPAPERS
TO THE GOVERNOR’S HOUSE AS A KID
TO RAISING MY KIDS WITH MY WIFE,
OUR THREE KIDS, IN IT.>>I WOULDN’T BE HERE WITHOUT MY
MOM. FIRST OF ALL, MY MOM RAISED ME
AS A SINGLE MOTHER, MY B
AND ME. SHE WORKED VERY HARD TO SUPPORT
US AND SUPPORT HER MOM, MY
GRANDMOTHER. MY MOM WAS THE FIRST IN HER
FAMILY TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH
SCHOOL AND THEN GET TO GO ON TO
COLLEGE. SHE WAS ALSO A HELL-RAISER. SHE WAS INVOLVED IN WOMEN’S
EMPOWERMENT ISSUES AND HISPANIC
ISSU
SO SHE RAISED MY BROTHER AND ME
TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN MAKE A
DIFFERENCE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THAT I GREW UP WITH THE MOTHER
THAT I GREW UP WITH. AND I’LL ALWAYS REMEMBER T
LESSONS THAT SHE TAUGHT ME IF
I’M PRESIDENT.>>YOU EITHER GIVE UP IN THE
FACE OF THE KIND OF TERROR THAT
WE SAW IN EL PASO COME IN THE
CITY THAT LOSES 18 PEOPLE IN A
GIVEN YEAR. YOU’RE EITHER CONSUMED BY THE
SUFFERING AND THE TRAGEDY OF IT,
YOU EITHER ACCEPT IT AS AN ACT
OF GOD OR OU
FATE, OR YOU STAND UP AND DO. AND I FEEL SO COMPELLED TO DOESP
WHERE THIS COUNTRY IS AND WHAT
WE SAW IN EL PASO, ESPECIALLY
GI
JUDGEMENT I FEAR MOST IS MY
CHILDREN AND YOUR CHILDRENRIGHT NOW TO DO THE RIGHT THINIEVES IN
MORE IN COMMON THAN WHAT
SEPARATES US. I HAVE THE 3:00 A.M. AGENDA. 3:00 A.M., SOME PEOPLE CALL IT
THE WITCHING HOUR. WHEN WE WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE NIGHT WITH
HAS BEEN WEIGHING ON US, FOR THE
VAST MAJORITY OF US WHEN WE WAKE
UP THINKING THAT THOUGHT IT ISHE
WITH WHICH WE ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE.>>WHEN MY SON BEAU DIED, HE W
MYSE SOUPIECE OF IT WITH BEA
BECAUSE YOU GONE THROUGH IT AS A
KID WITH ME AND HE KNEW HE WAS
DYING,
THAT IS WHY I WROTE THE BOOK ABOUT MY SON. HE SAID, “PROMISE ME, DAD.”
HE SAID, “I’M GOING TO BE OK NO
MATTER WHAT HAPPENS,” AND HE
KNEW HE ONLY HAD MONTHS. HE SAID, “PROMISE ME YOU AREG TO
>>IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE —
AND I KNOW PEOPLE WHO I’VE
SERVED WITH. ONE OF MY SOLDIERS DURING MY
SECOND DEPLOYMENT DEPLOYED MANY
TIMES, CAME HOMEAT HOME
AND TOOK HIS OWN LIFE. SO THIS HITS CLOSE TO HOME AND
DEAL WITH THE STIGMA AND TO
DEDICATE WHATEVER RESOURCES ARE
NECESSARY.>>UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, WE
THOUGHT MY GRANDFATHER HAD DIED
FROM ALZHEIMER’S DISEASE. T FOR 20 YEARS. HE IS THE GRANDPARENT IIER WHO H
FROM POLAND. NOW WE ARE UNSURE IF IT IS
BECAUSE OF ALZHEIMER’S OR
BECAUSE TH
DURING WORLD WAR II. IN ANY EVENT, THE OUTCOME WASTHE
BECAUSE OF HIS EXPERIENCE AND MY
FAMILY’S OWN EXPERIENCE, I HAVEV
FUNDING OF ALZHEIMER’S AND
INCREASED FUNDING FOR
ALZHEIMER’S EVERY YEAR I’VE BEEN>>PROBABLY THE MOST CHALLENGING
TIME IN MY LIFE WAS EARLIER THIS
THE WHE PROCESS WAS ONE WHERE,
I MEAN, HE GOT EXCELLENT MEDICAL
CARE. IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT, THOUGH. I MAKE DECISIONS FOR A LIVING,
BUT NOTHING COULD HAVE PREPARE F
DECISIONS THAT OUR FAMILY FACED. ONE THING I LEARNED ABOUT IT WAS
THE CLOSENES
I’M SORRY, YOU’RE TAKING ME TO A
TOUGH PLACE. THE IMPORTANCE OF MY MARRIAGE. MY HUSBAND ABSOLUTELY JUST
PROPPED OUR FAMILY UP. HELPED MY FA
DAYS, HELPS MY MOTHER RIGHT NOW,
HELPS ME.>>I’M THE SON OF AN IMMIGRANT. MY FATHER CAME TO THIS COUNTRY
WITHOUT A NICKEL IN HIS POCKET. NEVER MADE MUCH MONEY. BUT HE CAME FROM POLAND
AGE OF 17 AND BECAME THE
PROUDEST AMERICAN THAT YOU EVER
SAW. THIS COUNTRY ENABLED HIM TO
RAISE TWO KIDS, AT LEAST WITH A
WORKING-CLDARD OF
LIVING. SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
EXPERIENCE OF IMMIGRANTS.>>I’VE ALWAYS BEEN AN UNDERDOG. BEING THE SON OF IMMIGRANTS, MY
PARENTS CAME FROM JAMAICA, MY
ACT SUGARCANE
CUTTER, MY MOTHER WAS A COOK
THAT USED TO GO OUT IN THEELDS T
YOU KNOW, I WAS NEVER EXPECTED TO GO TO FLORIDA STATE
UNIVERSITY, TO PLA
LEGENDARY COACH BOBBY BOWDOIN,
MUCH LESS WIN A NATIONAL WEAR AN
MAYOR OF A VERY DIVERSE CITY,
ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE CONTEMPLATED AS PRESIDENT. SO I’V. I’VE BEEN THE DARK HORSE ALL MY
I AM SOMEONE WHOSE WORK HAVING
FOUNDED AIDS ORGANIZATIONS,
HAVING FOUNDED PEACE
ORGANIZATIONS, AND HAVING WORKED
ON ANTI-POVERTY EF THROUGHOUT MY ADULT CAREER. I’M A VERY PRACTICAL WOMAN. I DON’T JUST TALK. YOU DON’T SEE
YOU KNOW? I’M NOT JUST PINK PAINT AND
CRYSTALS.M INTO GETTING THINGS D
>>WE COME FROM A BELOVED
COMMUNITY. THAT’S OUR HISTORY. WHEN WE STAND UP FOR EACH OTHER,
WHEN WE
OTHER — PATRIOTISM IS LOVE OF
YOUR COUNTRY UNLESS YOU LOVE
YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN AND
WOMEN. WE MAY NOT AAT IF YOUR KIDS
DON’T HAVE A GREAT PUBLIC
EDUCATION, MY KIDS ARE WORSE
OFF. IF YOU CARE, THEN MY FAMILY IS
LESS SECURE. THAT INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A
THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE. LOVE IS NOT A SENTIMENT, IT IS
DEMANDING, IT IS SACRIFICES,
ACTION. NOW, I’M SORRY, THIS MAY NOT BE
THE WORD YOU WANT TO HEAR IN A
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,NEED MORE
>>I HAVE PROPOSED THIS BECAUSE
OF PERSONAL EXPERIENCE MYSELF
WITH MY DAD WHO STRUGGLED WITH ALCOHOLISM MY WHOLE LI
HE HAD TWO DUI’S WHEN I WAS IN
MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HE HAD HIS
THIRD WHEN I WAS ABOUT TO GET
MARRIED IN THE 1
THAT IS WHEN THE RULES CHANGED AND YOU COULD CHOOSE BETWEEN
JAIL OR TREATMENT AND HE CHOSE
TREATMENT, AND I TOLD HIM WHAT
IT WAS LIK
HAD TO TAKE THE KEYS AWAY FROM
HIM AND HE WAS DRIVING DRUNK, OR WHEN HE WASN’T THERE FORO
MY DAD. I THINK IT HAS MADE ME A BETTER
LEGISLATURE BECAUSE OF THAT AND
A BETTER PRESIDENT I WILL BE.>>I GREW UP — FAMILY
WASN’T POLITIC
EVEN AS AN ADULT, WITH KIDS AND
TEACHING SCHOOL AND DOING MY
RESEARCH, POLITICS WAS
AND CENTER FOR ME.AN T UNDERSTAND WAS THROUGH MY
RESEARCH. MY RESEARCH WAS ON M
GO BROKE, FY FAMILIES GO BROKE
AND WHY AMERICA’S MIDDLE CLASSOU
>>I NEVER KNEW WHETHER MEMBERS
OF MY CABIRO-CHOICE OR
PRO-LIFE. I DO SEE BOTH SIDES OF THAT
ISSUE. MY WIFE AND I HAD THAT ISSUE
ME UP ONCE WHERE ONE OF OUR
KIDS, IT WAS NOT A PROBLEM
PREGNANCY, BUT THERE WAS ATING R
WAS SOME SUGGESTION FROM THE
DOCTORS AND THE MEDICAL PEOPLE HANDLING THE CASE THAT MAYBE WEO
PREGNANCY, AND WE SAID, ARE YOU
KIDDING? THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE
DIDN’T WANT THEM MAKING THAT
DECISION, WE WANTED TO MAKE THAT
DECISION, AND THAT’S THE BASIS
FOR MY LONGTIME-HELD PRO-CHOICE
>>ONE OF THE THINGS YOU M KNOW ABOUT ME IS THAT MY DAD WAS
A LAWYER WHO INTERRUPTED HIS LAW
PRACTICE TO GO IN THE NAVY
WORLD WAR II AND PROSECUTED THE
NAZIS AT N
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THE UNITED STATES TRADITIONALLY
STANDS FOR, WE STAND FOR MORAL
LEADERSHIP IN THE WORLD. WE ALWAYS HAVE. THAT’S ALWAYS BEEN THE POINT OF
THIS COUNTRY. I MEAN, WE STARTED OUT BEING FOR
FREEDOM AND JUSTICE.>>I WAS HERE JUST A COUPLE OF
WEEKS AGO AND I WAS DRIVING, AND
YOU HAD A SNOWSTORM, AND I WASJU
PICTURES AND I WAS JUST SENDING
IT TO MY TEAM, I WAS LIKE, IT
DOESN’T GET BETTER THAN CAMPAIGNING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
WITH SOME FRESH SNOW ON THE
GROUND. ADAM: WELL OVER 200 TOWNS INHE L
GREAT SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN ONCE
SAID, EACH TOWN IS ITS OWN
POLITICAL UNIVERSE.>>WELL, YOU DO HAVE A V
UNIQUE POLITICAL SYSTEM HERE. SOMEONE HERE DIDN’T TRUST
[LAUGHTER]
RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY CREATED A SYSTEM
THAT HAS A LOT OF CHECKS AND
BALANCES CAN LET’S PUT IT THAT
ADAM: YOU WENT TO PHILLIETER ACA
HAMPSHIRE.>>YES, I DID. ADAM: WHAT IS YOUR FONDE
MEMORY OF THE GRANITE STATE,
HAVING SPENT A FORMATIVE PART OF
>>I LEARNED TO SKI AS A JUNIOR
IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND I HAD NEVER
SKIED BEFORE. LIKE, A SKI TRIP AT EXETER, AND I WAS LIKE,
I GOING TO LEARN TO SKI. AMAND SO I GOT ON THAT BUS. AND IT WAS A PAINFUL DAY. [LAUGHTER]
IT WAS A PAINFUL DAY. BUT THEN I WAS VERY PROUD OF
MYSELF THAT I MANAGED TO C
SLOPES BY THE END OF THE DAY. ADAM: WHAT WAS YOUR FAVORITENG H
FRANKLIN PIERCE LAW SCHOOL?>>THE FALL. I MEAN, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YOU CAN’T EVEN EXPLAIN IT TO
PEOPLE. WE HAVE ON OUR TV SET AT HOME,
YOU KNOW WHEN IT GOES QUIET, AND
THEY START FLASHING PICTURES. AND ONE OF THE PICTURES HAS
GOT TO BE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE. I MEAN, THE LEAVES ARE VIVID. AND I WOULD TELL MY WIFE, THAT’S
GOTTA BE NEW HAMPSHIRE. THE FALL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, O
NOTHING LIKE IT. SO I’M GOING TO
THE FALL, OK? ADAM: YOU’VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES THIS EVE
WE ACTUALLY HELD 25 TOWN HALLS. SEVERAL OF THOSE CANDIDATES ARE
NO LONGER IN THE RACE, BUT YOU
CAN FIND THEIR CONVERSATIONS ON
OUR WEBSITE AND MOBILE APP. THAT’S WHERE YOU CAN ALSO SEE
THE FULL HOUR-LONG SHOWS FOR
EACH OF TONIGHT’S CANDIDATES AND
LEARN MUCH MORE ABOUT THEIR
POLITICS AND PERSONALITIES. ALL PART OF OUR COMMITMENT TO
HELPING YOU MAKE AN INFORMED
CHOICE IN 2020. THANKS FOR JOINING US, AND MAKE
SURE TO STAY WITH US ON AIR AND
ON OUR DIGITAL PLATFORMS FOR ALL
THINGS POLITICAL THROUGH THE
2020 ELECTIO

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