Disability Over 50: Why Age Counts in a Social Security Disability Case

this is the American Law Journal or if you apply for Social Security disability benefits will you get them it may come down to one simple number what's your age good evening I'm Christopher nought and welcome to ALJ the old adage is the older you get the easier it is to get disability benefits but a former New York Yankee found out that's not necessarily the case Gina Passarella with the legal intelligencer has this subscribe dial with a Yankee runner inscribed position Brian Doyle right now he is three for three with two runs scored Brian Doyle a fairy tale story in the Yankee baseball history a utility infielder with a low career batting average Doyle subbed for a Lang star Willie Randolph in the 1978 World Series and for two glorious weeks he hit 438 driving in and scoring runs making sparkling plays in the field leading the Yanks to victory that was Doyle's brief shining moment in the Sun but in the 1990s he contracted leukemia his bones deteriorated and today in his 60s suffers from Parkinson's disease making life difficult and according to Doyle work impossible I am quite a bit homebound I can't I can't drive so Doyle applied for Social Security disability benefits but the government turned him down twice I was extremely disappointed and frustrated and it should have been easier for the 60 year old Doyle because the Social Security Administration has set up medical vocational grids taking into account one's education ability to do light work and age simply put the closer to retirement age you get the easier it is to get disability benefits but not for Doyle he didn't give up after those two denials he filed an appeal to get his day in court last November after Doyle's case was heard by an administrative law judge he did what he so often did in the 78th world series with two strikes and two outs he got his clutch hit and finally landed his Social Security disability benefits award have endurance have friends and family to support and pray because I'm living proof that almost after three years I finally won my case for the American Law Journal I'm Gina Passarella alright folks we're here with you and your telephone calls I've got two attorneys here in the studio with me we'll be joined by a guest from Washington DC in just a couple of minutes but first just Leventhal joins us once again he's been doing for many years with Leventhal Sutton and gornstein claim it's attorney the firm focusing on SSD and SSI cases and seated right next to him familiar face now I think I went back to the old VHS tapes guys I think he goes back to the mid-1990s one night I'm going to pull him out Alan Polanski is with Polanski and Polanski in Audubon New Jersey formerly with the Social Security Administration well that's getting further and further in the review rearview mirror Alan's been representing claimants for many years first I just want to talk about Brian Doyle aside from the fact that I was a Yankee fan growing up you know we keep getting these stories about the fact that so many people are on the rolls it's so easy to get Social Security disability then of course we find out and we do the research yeah as you get older it should be should get easier and here's Brian Doyle 61 years old took him to swings actually a third swing before he finally got got the disability benefits so it ain't so easy it isn't so easy and his story is not really all that unusual the fact that he was denied initially he was denied on what's called a reconsideration and then he had an opportunity for a hearing before a judge and that's where he gets to appear in person and explain his case to the judge I'm not surprised he was denied twice there could have been otherwise and by not one because 2/3 of the people who applied the first time or denied 90% on the second time are denied when you get before a judge you get to appear in person and talk directly to the person who's going to make a decision they could see them the first people didn't see him they didn't talk to him directly obviously I don't know what his medical condition status was but merely having leukemia wouldn't necessarily mean he was disabled its how did it affect them how did it affect his ability well no he me and then Parkinson's Parkinson's I mean just looking at I'm gonna say why was this guy turned down right but it doesn't shock me to see that he was yeah just this may be a little off the reservation but the fact that he had some fame maybe someone assumes that maybe he's got some money or something along those lines just does that ever could could that ever factor in I doubt it should I really ought shouldn't but I doubt it I mean the biggest problem with this is how long he had the wait which is the problem we're dealing with with all of our clients now so the first two levels probably took him at least nine to ten months and he was sitting another 24 months waiting to get to a hearing but the real question is I don't know what kind of work he did after baseball that maybe what part of it well actually and this is part of the story too he was actually coach and he's a minister and he actually went on tour so what you know you know the gospel for Christ and bringing kids out to play and all across the country well he can't really do that so much anymore tours are probably an interesting part of this because he was still able to speak and that may be what what killed him at the first two levels interesting well at this moment let me bring in Rebecca Valles from CNN studios in Washington DC Rebecca's joined us before she is the director of the poverty to prosperity program for the Center for American Progress Rebecca thanks for joining us tonight you know it's interesting I know you just spoke again before Congress and what I'm going to throw a graphic up here actually provided to us from the Center for American Progress that talks about before we get into the age issue Rebecca let me hit this let me see I can get a base it on this one because this issue comes up time and time again we talk about disability but some of the latest statistics applications and awards disabled workers seventy five to twenty fourteen if we look at applications per 1000 insured workers those numbers have gone up but the awards per 1000 in short workers those Awards have stayed level maybe they've gone down that's exactly right and thank you so much for having me back on the program so one of those things that people often like to say but which is really kind of one of those those Washington myths is that somehow this is a program where the benefits are just really easy to get the reality is as you guys have been discussing that nothing could be further from the truth it is incredibly hard to get disability benefits we have the strictest definition of disability in the entire developed world and that's why such unfortunate and tragic stories like the gentlemen you were just talking about really do happen within our social security system all too often what's interesting Rebecca is here's a gentleman now when he applied it was probably 58 59 by the time he finally gets benefits again by going to the third step in his state going before the administrative law judge but again this is not a person that is really that far away from getting his benefits as Social Security benefits what is the explanation for such a delay when someone is so close and has Parkinson's disease had leukemia so the the reason that we all pay into Social Security and really to the entire Social Security system is because you know we never know what's going to happen right disability and ill health it's not something that's pleasant to think about it's not something we like to think about for ourselves and often people don't really think about it until it happens to them or to a loved one but that's why with every paycheck most workers in this country are paying into the entire Social Security system so that it's there for us in retirement or in case we're not going to make it to retirement and our bodies break down before we're able to to make it to that point to that age the disability insurance component of the system is there to catch us to be really a vital source of income in in that in that case and so that's really why disability is such an important part of the system to answer your question about the delay in the in the process unfortunately Congress and I hate to make it a partisan thing but it is conservatives in Congress have for too long underfunded the Social Security Administration so that it doesn't have the resources that it needs to keep up with the caseload and so what we've seen is just really catastrophic backlogs people waiting a year in some cases two years to get to a hearing before an administrative law judge this isn't something we can tolerate within the Veterans Administration it's not something we should tolerate with Social Security and the answer is as simple as Congress giving the agency the money it needs Jess one of the issues actually that you discussed is the closer they get the retirement age what I've noticed in my practice is that what seems to happen is the closer they get to retirement age the higher the level of scrutiny is where people are starting to think that it's they're looking to retire early they're not looking to try and work again so the scrutiny I think of the medical records is even higher as you get closer to retirement age and while this may not have been an issue with mr. Doyle because I presumably he made a pretty good living while he was a ballplayer and whatever he did afterwards but for most people there's a difference in benefits that you get at 60 than what you would get if you're found disabled you're found disabled you get what you would get on full retirement age for somebody who was born when he was born would probably be 466 so he's getting the full benefit if he simply waited and started collecting benefits at 62 he's only getting 75% of it now maybe for him it didn't matter but for the vast number of people it makes a huge difference whether they collect disability or wait for retirement again we want to remind you I did not remind you at the top of the show we are taking your telephone calls tonight 1-800 for two six four six two five here in the studio calling early otherwise we can't get to your telephone call so you just saw the graph that we put up there is that again the likelihood of receiving us as the benefits should increase with age there you see the people 55 to 59 the prevalence rate almost 10 percent nine point one percent sixty to sixty four twelve point three percent but it's interesting just what you say you look at that and say well maybe I'm in I'm 58 I can't do the work that sort of thing so in other words are you saying the administration right from the get-go is scrutinizing these are you saying the ALJ the administrative law judges are scrutinizing me first two levels I think that's how they scrutinize they're scrutinizing it a little more closely thinking that people may want to retire early but the other issue that's under that they really don't look at it's one thing to lose your job because of the economy it's another thing to lose your job because of disability and people aren't looking I mean they look at adjustment once you get the age 55 but they're not looking at adjustment at age 50 and the whole issue of depression and you're not able to do what you did nobody plans for disability unfortunately a very few companies carried their own private insurance Rebecca our mental capacity issues more prevalent as folks grow older at least within the context of disability so mental impairments are one of those things where we actually don't see a dramatic difference across the different age levels you met you made the very important point that we should expect that people are more likely to have disabilities and and serious health conditions the older that they get you're twice as likely to be disabled at age 50 as you are at age 40 you're twice as likely to be disabled at age 60 as you are at 50 and yet all too often unfortunately as Jess and Alan mentioned there's this sort of stigma or skepticism or disbelief particularly in the wake of the recession that older workers are somehow faking or that they they're just trying to retire early I mean the reality is that despite the fact that everybody often talks about how we're all living longer or everybody's getting health or healthier those are really statements that are only true when you talk about people at the top of the income ladder and people with with higher levels of education and that's not what describes the bulk of the di beneficiary population so we need to be careful before we make assumptions about whether people can continue to work or whether they're really just trying to turn to an insurance program that they need more than ever gotcha Alan you got to come and what Rebecca was saying in terms of the disability population isn't identical to the population at large disproportionately we're dealing with people of lower education approximately 20% of the people getting disabil benefits have less than a high school education it's less than 10% in the population at large so we're talking about people work to a very large extent with minimal skills minimal background work activity that was primarily physical and arduous work activity and now they can't do that anymore all they really ever had was their strong back and a strong back isn't there and for those people in today's economy and the jobs that continue to exist for those people have simply disappeared they don't exist for those people and the retraining has not happened and the money for retraining has not happened why not just isn't there where Congress just isn't looking at it there was supposed to be a lot more money allocated for people with drug and alcohol issues that didn't happen they've never allocated them now the amount of money they need for retraining in this country and these jobs are gone what do you do now Rebecca do you have an explanation for that or is it back to Congress is to blame yeah I think unfortunately you know we well I should say fortunately we hear a lot on both sides of the aisle about how people care about increasing opportunity people care about investing and creating jobs that's something that you hear from Republicans and Democrats alike these days but unfortunately there really only exists support to invest in those kinds of programs and and policies on on the Democratic side of the aisle and unfortunately with Republicans controlling both the House and the Senate Obama has tried to do the best that he can he just put out another budget a couple of weeks ago that isn't going to you know ever see any serious interest isn't even getting a hearing on the hill because Republicans they you know they might have found better talking points when it comes to poverty and and opportunity but you know it's they're they're still wearing the same old shade of lipstick correct Rebecca let's be clear though the lot of people were worried this time last year actually late last year that the new budget was going to cut SSD back by twenty percent or so that did not happen the new budget was exactly right today so then those people who was there was a budget deal at the end of last year and it did include a provision to avoid those benefit cuts which which was incredibly important for beneficiaries and and and last question for you because I know we'll be losing you here in just a moment Rebecca but with so many people with the baby boomers now that you know again that pig through the Python whatever metaphor you'd like to use with so many people getting close to six you're actually in their 60s now should we begin to see one of these years a decrease in disability applications so we actually already have we have seen a drop-off in applications we've seen a drop-off when it comes to the the growth in the program and that is because precisely what you just said that the baby boomers who have been aging into their high disability years over the course of the last several years that that growth that that sort of bubble passing has caused in the program it's going to pass and it's already on its way to passing and that's why the program is not you know at risk of continuing to to grow in in the way that Republicans have often characterized it it's a program that is on very sound and stable footing just like the rest of the Social Security system it's just an issue for Congress to deal with modest revenue questions and hopefully soon and on a bipartisan basis Rebecca Valles with the Center for American Progress the director of their prosperity to prosperity program Rebecca as always appreciate you being here we discussed disability issues thanks so much all right have a good evening let's take a couple phone calls here we've got some lined up so let's go ahead let's go to Ted first head from Allentown you're up first tonight what's your question for us but my question is at what age is a spouse eligible to collect the Social Security disability benefit of deceased partner so if we're talking about a spouse that is themselves disabled and depending on when they became disabled they can start collecting at age 50 at age 60 they can collect the benefits whether they're disabled or not it's the same definition of disability that applies to any other case the reason I say depends on when they became disabled old because there there's a prescribed period they have to become disabled within 84 months of the death of the spouse or they have to be within 84 months of when they last received parents benefits with a child in the person's care so basically 50 is the short answer anything Jessie how he's right how do you get a thank you you passed the far out we've got an email question here for and it's interesting because you mentioned something about a strong back I've been a truck driver for 20 years and it is brac back-breaking work my dog says it's time for me to stop even though I like my work my body can't take it my back is severely limited compared to when I started I'm 54 years old it doesn't look as if they can offer me a desk job which I wouldn't want anyway what are my chances if I apply for disability benefits probably pretty good because now at 54 you're getting closer to age 55 and the rules change of 55 if the best you can do at 55 is light work which is standing but unskilled then he would be disabled on there between 50 and 54 and I'm 15 55 if you're the best you can do is unskilled sedentary work the work he did was semi skilled the driving work right but if he can't do that work anymore then the closer he gets to 55 the better off he is but like my point would be and I've answered this question a hundred times my office is that if you're still working keep working keep working for as long as you possibly can until the choice is made for you and you don't have any other choice because the process is not short it's not simple and you could be waiting a year or two years sometimes even three years before you'd be able to get benefits so long as you can hang in there and do it do it but it's still going you would have a better chance to get benefits the older you get at the same time what you have to do is plan into it so you're looking at working as long as you can before the decision is made for you put away as much money as you can cut your big cut your if you can your overhead down your expenses down go to see your doctors while you still have health insurance get the documentation walk in tell them what you're complaining of have the x-rays the MRIs the testing done whatever it is so that when you walk in it's not that oh yeah we need to start doing this and get the x-rays and see the doctors and talk about this let's go to Dennis in Catasauqua next Dennis hello oh hi Dennis you're on the air go ahead what's your question for us my question is I was getting SSI and disability and just recently like back in September October they had cut me off because I was grinding a pension from the military the VA and they cook it completely took my assets Iowa I was wondering about to do that so here's what happened SSI itself is a general Assistance Program it's a type of federal welfare so every dollar you get an income from any other source will reduce what you're eligible to receive if you're getting a VA pension and either a service or non-service connected pension every dollar you receive after the first twenty dollars reduces the benefit so if SSI is a little bit over seven hundred and fifty dollars depending on whether you're in New Jersey or Pennsylvania maximum if you're non-service connected pension or your service connected pension is more than that that's why you lost the SSI not because anybody doesn't think you're disabled anymore thanks for your phone call let's go to another Dennis and again a reminder 1-800 four to six four six two five we're going to stick around in the studio once we leave the studio or once we leave the air at 7:30 keep calling even past the half hour Dennis our second Dennis you're up next hey good how are you tonight pretty good my question is that I just retired at age 62 because of my rheumatoid arthritis and I'm wondering how hard it would be to get the disability part filed for the disability and also file for your early retirement so at least you have some file for early retirement already my seed in my retirement file for the disability at the same time also you should have been trying to get right now I mean I they sent me this green packet right has like 120 pages on your you have to do that say I like really one of the names and addresses of your doctors what treatment you receive that's what goes on the green form at your age 62 I don't know what you did before but you do have a pretty good chance of getting disability benefits once you apply but meanwhile you're going to continue to get the retirement benefits until that decision is made right and once you get the disability you'll retire a benefit will jump up hey thanks for your phone call appreciate it let's go to another email this from a Woodbury New Jersey if you have medical issues and you qualify for SSD you obviously have serious medical issues why does it take an additional two years to qualify for Medicare um because that's the way it's always been and that's how they set up the program in the first place do I have a good reason for it there is no good reason for it that's simply the way it works I know of two exceptions if you have kidney disease or you're suffering from ALS they don't have the same waiting period till you qualify for Medicare but other than that there is that delay until you're entitled to Medicare there is no good reason is just the way it is alright let's go to Judy next and I'm not even sure where Judy's from but go ahead Judy what's your question I have a question I was very ill and I worked in nursing here and I ended up beginning on the work and I lost my job I was told that I had to resign and I'm very ill tanda and I asked cannot breathe anymore I have COPD and all the other stuff I have an attorney that's not helping me and Judy how am I going here how old are you Judy can you hear me how old are you very very how old are you 52 52 okay it's I mean I week tell my both get phone calls that the attorneys not helping them once you file your claim if you've been denied I saw my claim in September right have you been denied um I think you two appointments now and they should have my medical records through my attorney well they supposed to get the medical records on their own if they're missing records they'll contact your attorney and tell them what they're missing so he can help get the rest of them he or she can help get the rest of the records that you need but that's what happens in initial thank you thanks thanks for your question I'm going to try to get a couple more in here before we have to leave let's go to Christopher next Christopher good evening great name go ahead okay go ahead I just was saying great name go ahead oh I I have a apply for disability and my right eye is completely blind it's over silver 20 over 400 and my left eye is 20 40 20 60 um and it was a bacterial infection and it can come and go so the left could actually get worse at times and I actually broke my foot at work because I couldn't see the last steps at that point I pretty much decided I had to do something and applied for disability what's the criteria for the vision it doesn't have to be both eyes is the 20 over 400 my right is 20 over 400 okay so let's step back a little bit it's yes in terms of being considered blind is 2400 2200 and the best eye so if you can't see out of one eye but you still have better than that and the other eye you're not going to be considered blind in terms of being disabled but that's not the end of the story because it's not really the condition that makes you disabled it's the effect of whatever condition you have or conditions in combination how they affect your ability to function so for example if you are a truck driver and you lost vision in one eye and you had impaired vision and the other eye you wouldn't be able to be a truck driver then it's a question of whether you could do alternative work activity so whether you meet the specific criteria for blindness is not really the end of the story you may or may not be considered disabled based on what other other elements you have but at the same Christopher you mentioned cut and obviously my foot has been ongoing a year now but I was bartending and it's not possible like I can't see if this person beside me at least that I can't see if there's a class empty um and as far as like I said even on the left eye it's hard to read a computer screen like go ahead just get you an Asian to your right but Christopher what you need to do is you need to pay attention one of the things you said was your left eye is bad periodically so what you need to do is make sure you keep records of when you're when your left eye is bad so they can see the frequency of how often you would have difficulty even with vision even Nevada folks continue to call 1-800 for two six four six two five I have to say good night with my guest Jes Leventhal with Leventhal Sutton and gornstein and of course Alan Polanski with Polanski and Polanski and I also want to thank Rebecca Valles with the Center for American Progress for joining us again one eight hundred four two six four six two and five we'll continue taking them past the half hour I'm attorney Christopher Naughton until next Monday night case closed hizmet's American Law Journal has been made possible in part by law catalyst legal media and marketing for lawyers go to law catalyst comm sheller pc protecting consumer rights since 1977 King spry serving its Pennsylvania clients in family law business personal injury and school law for over 30 years and the legal Intelligencer an American Lawyer media company and the oldest daily legal newspaper in the United States

36 thoughts on “Disability Over 50: Why Age Counts in a Social Security Disability Case

  • I am 45 year old and I am on disability since in 1993. I got off disability in 2019 because social security said I work too many hours since mom died .I had no body helping me with my social security money for three months.. When my mom was alive she was my representative . Social Security sent everything too my brother and told me nothing . My brother is a a top boss of a company and he very busy. When we went to the social security office to get everything settled . The Social security said they wanted $40000.00 back for working too many hours. I am angry that them because they do not care if you can pay or not. The lawyers do not understand this system is stressful .

  • N.Y.C. Freddy: Comment: Thank you. Very professional within this interview. So many are subjugated, held at bay., and perhaps deceptively misled & mishandled within the application process as sought in our nation the U.S.A. ! Things need to be changed in speeding up the process in total.

  • BS.. i am near pension age and my disability got stopped through false accusations.. i have it back now though but i struggled over a year to get it back.. and now i have to pay back rent of my gas metre because i couldn't afford gas in it.. so basically i am now paying it back plus the rent to get it back on. and wait for it, since i have to pay all this i haven't the money to get it back on because it's all gone on the stupid rent of the metre.. work that out..

  • Funny how people with a backache Can be approved For disability at the age of 28 but people that a really really sick can get nothing .This is not new it has been going on for years and years

  • I have been fighting with an atty since day 1. I've been fighting for 6yrs now. On my 2nd application & currently waiting to see an ALJ for the 2nd time. I live in FL. My case is solid. First ALJ only approves 10-15% of cases. The system is b.s., and those who took advantage or lied ruined it for those of us who really need it. They keep looking at my education & job skill (admin), and claim I can still work. They stated I can be a bolt sorter, toll both operator, security monitor….JOKE! All of my disabilities are severe, backed by doctors/specialists! But my bi-polar ex got it first try at 45yrs.

  • Thank you.
    Very informative guests.
    I have Lupus + other. I've been denied twice for disability. I don't have enough work credit and receive alimony. Disability did not even attempt to speak to my doctors.😢
    Where are your attorneys located?
    Disability would not look at my green form. My daughter filled it out for me, my nueropathy prevented me from doing so.

  • It's a scam you have to go thru court to get your SS disability. The leagel system wants to get a piece of the pie. Most people you can just look at and see they need it.

  • Not illegal to SSI cut. I have jobs because I am permanently career job to earn good money and still stigma. How many people with disabilities are unemployed to able results death, if don’t even want job. Mean called joblessness to threaten SSI cut off turn loses. Supposed won SSI claims to became successful and still alive. My case is unfair for government. Government is shit like to free. That’s my first amendment rights than loser!

  • Its is not Republicans…its libtards that invite illegals who collect benefits that come out of Social Security funds!!

  • People who claim mental retardation with not much medical record but letters from friends and family are approved faster than the dying person. What's up with that? Mental retardation claims today are 500% higher than previous years.

    United States lawmakers do not know how to make laws that is fair to everyone in this country in every programs and services. DSS offices are impossible to rich. Besides, there are no postings of benefits whatsoever that give people a clue of what they can get. Help for electricity bill fund is out of funding after only 1 day of distribution every single month. You better be in line before the office open on the first Tuesday of the month or otherwise you got no electricity. The reasons of the shortage are over office employment that took some funds and some claimants are bringing hundreds and hundreds of electric bill. It needed some limitations on the use of electricity to further the fund.

    Small Business Bureau's Offices is too high class and too fancy to serve the poor. As a result, there hasn't been no poor people have gotten help to start a business.

    Farm Bill Money went to the rich farmers who don't grow nothing but woods and grass. Also went to landline telephone companies that do not benefit to the poor who can't afford their services. At least a free home phone a month should be required in exchange to the government money.

  • Why do we have to play their games to get our money back? Why don't they just give it us back with interest when we needed it? In the Philippines, you can get loan on your SS withholding. If you retire, you get a lump sum. If you die prior to retirement, all withholding will be given to your family.

    Here in the US, no explanation to what happened to our leftover SS money after we die.

  • If you are a bum or a hillbilly and dont want to work then you will get approved because they feel they have to do something with you so they approve you.
    If you have the slightest possibility that you can work or at least figure out a way to service they will denied you.
    If you are so bad in a wheelchair or its so obvious they will approve you but they need a percentage of denials in order to justify there jobs.

    I had three Heart Attacks and a Stroke and was told I will never walk unassisted or drive a car and my Heart was down to 22% and yes you guessed it they denied me and said I could get a job as a telemarketer LOL
    Which I never worked as a telemarketer I was in Medical Equipment sales for 35 years but now I lose my breath when talking and need several breaks during the day because of dizziness and chest pain and they ruled out all jobs in the category that I worked in my entire life but said that I could possibly work from home as a telemarketer perhaps part time making minimum wage LOL its a joke!
    I know a guy who said he had a bad back and milked it and was approved because he's a hillbilliy and never wanted to work and would go out on Medical leave any chance he could and now he plays golf does yard work and tells People he's retired but I cant drive or walk without a walker and cant go very far because chest pain and I am a candidate for a Heart transplant but I can work in an industry I have no experience in and it only pays minimum wage any way and they said thats what I need to do.
    So tell me that its not set up to just get the bums and hillbillies out of the way and deny an yone who has a brain and tell them to do a job like telemarketing.

  • Cant believe it now they have knocked me off my ESA got to go through it all again dont know if my head can take it again 12mths of shit and stress they know how to wind up

  • That clutch hit he got in the hearing was actually showing how worthless he has become. Going thru the SSD process is a humiliating ordeal having to sell your limitations to the government.

  • If you are white in America
    They want you to die . scum
    Bags and I am in the of bringing a civil lawsuit against health and human
    Services .

  • The antiwhite scum who are white who hate the poor people in America
    You need to go jail for treason against the American people

  • Hmm, an attorney just said that it's more difficult for some one in their 50's to get disability. Even if they are genuinely disabled. If you're Young it's easier.
    Why would she say that if it wasn't true? To get an easy case perhaps? Or does she actually know something we don't?

  • Kick her off! Mumbling and stumbling these people are trained to not simply say yes and no and why they believe this or why they don't.

  • A bill passed in 2014 HB 803 was passed for monies allocated for job training, a lot of companies don’t hire older people they want younger and under experienced workers. I know people who been on ssi or ssd younger then me who got quicker because of mental but if you have physical it’s harder , why the difference

  • Of course it’s under congress but if they need it trust me it’s done ✅ this country is so horrible and you pay into it the rest of your life and can’t reap the money , then your lucky you get over a thousand a month.

  • Social security let me think 🤔 but yet you pay into it you gotta struggle to get it if you really need it.

  • That pisse me off you can see who needs it but then you get these other people who don't need it get it with no problem i think that's Bull shit and I know you think so too but no one says anything about it God bless those people that do need it one day the tables will be reversed best of luck to them

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