Dying Inside: Elderly in Prison – Fault Lines


>>Some are blind. Others are ridden with cancer. Many have serious mental illness. All of them are old. And a few will never get out alive.>>The United States gives out longer sentences than any other place on the face of the earth. Europe looks at us like we don’t know what we’re doing – looks at us like we’re crazy.>>Open Nine.>>In this special investigation, Fault Lines gains unprecedented and exclusive access to prisons across the United States and discovers a booming population of elderly inmates.>>Open five. We ask: what’s the true cost of America’s “lock’em-up-and-throw-away-the- key” approach to justice?>>I heard him fall.>>Inmates call this the death house. The geriatric unit at the Joseph Harp Correctional Center in Lexington, Oklahoma, holds more than 250 elderly and disabled offenders. It was created 3 years ago in response to a massive explosion in Oklahoma’s elderly prison population.>>Our fastest growing segment is the inmates that are the age of 50 and over. We have about 3,700 now – that’s grown almost 200 percent in the last decade – and projections are we’re gonna continue to grow about 45 percent a year – because of enhancements to punishments, ‘tough on crime’, 85% laws that require you to serve 85% before you’re even eligible for parole, and then the advent of life without parole.>>My name is Plutarcho Hill and my number is 48713. I received that January the 16th, 1948.>>Plutarcho has the oldest inmate number in the state, he is 86 years old – 66 of those years have been spent behind bars. He’s escaped from prison 10 times.>>So you’re as good getting out of prison as you are getting in?>>Well, when my health was good.>>What are you serving for now? This sentence?>>It was a murder charge.>>How long ago?>>1947.>>What’s your sentence?>>Life.>>And this is what life means for Plutarcho now. A small section of a dormitory, with a few black and white photographs of his family. He’s outlived all of them.>>Elderly people in prison. Should they be given extra consideration for release?>>Well, yeah. Yeah, I do.>>Can you explain why?>>Because they’re harmless.>>Plutarcho’s not alone. In fact he’s part of a growing American trend. In the last decade the number of prisoners aged 55 and over has grown by an astonishing 75 percent, partly because longer sentences began to be handed out in the 1970’s and 80’s as the U.S. took a “tough on crime” approach. And the older a prisoner is, the bigger financial drain they pose. An elderly inmate costs around 70 thousand dollars a year to lock up – 2 to 3 times more than younger offenders. Older prisoners suffer higher rates of health problems – functional disabilities, impaired movement, major diseases, and mental illness. Mabel Basset Correctional Center is Oklahoma’s largest women’s prison. This state incarcerates more women per capita than any other in the US – twice the national average. They too are growing old behind bars. Estella and Mary may look like two grandmothers passing their time reading and writing poetry. And they are. But they’re also convicted killers.>>I didn’t have a chance in what I did. It was either kill or be killed. And I chose to live, and it was a survival thing.>>Estella turns 60 in November. She’s been behind bars for 13 years and hopes to be released in 2014.>>Can you tell us what kind of impact your incarceration has had on your family?>>Well it’s been especially hard on my grandchildren, because they always wonder why I can’t go home with them when they come to visit me. And they get upset. Like why did you do it, they ask me why did you do this, you know, and explaining to little kids like that that you took somebody’s life is really hard.>>The rising number of elderly prisoners – and the price tag for that trend – comes as state budgets are being squeezed across the country. Oklahoma has been hit particularly hard.>>The second round of budget reductions took a lot of our treatment. We have no substance abuse treatment, contractually or otherwise at the medium security level down. I know you’ve been to some of our medium security facilities. So we have to go back to our 10,000 plus volunteers, people that are retired professionals, people that work with faith-based groups or prison ministries, and ask them to do more, to fill in the gaps.>>On a recent Sunday evening, the West Moore Community Church band is doing just that, playing a concert for the inmates at Joseph Harp Correctional Facility. Numerous prisons we visited in Oklahoma were on lockdown because they did not have enough officers on duty to provide security. Staffing in Oklahoma prison systems is at 70% Officials told us they were operating in warehouse mode, storing people with little to no rehabilitation efforts. Most of the prisoners, young and old, that we talked to spoke about how hard it was to be granted parole. Unlike every other state in the US, all parolees in Oklahoma must be signed off directly by the governor. It’s part of the political landscape where politicians don’t want to be seen as soft on crime.>>You’ll never find somebody running for elected office in the House or the Senate that’s going to have a platform of successful reintegration, or is going to be less tough on crime than whoever they’re running against. That’s just the nature of politics I believe.>>What do you think of prison.>>It ain’t no good. No, it ain’t no good for people today.>>At 100 years old, with one leg missing and suffering from dementia, Sherman Parker is one of the oldest prisoners in the United States. He’s locked up at Dick Conner Correctional Facility- an hour north of Tulsa, Oklahoma. Here the prison has found a low cost solution for inmate health care–they train other prisoners as orderlies to work in the infirmary. Seth Anderson often works long hours taking care of the inmates here and for his efforts is paid $5 a month. He was convicted of kidnapping, drug possession and possession of a sawed-off shotgun.>>Dick Conners’ infirmary is where everybody comes to die. We have guys with cancer, leukemia, bone cancer. One guy’s got leukemia, bone cancer and lung cancer, all in the same. That’s what he’s here for. He’s here to die.>>One inmate Seth takes care of is blind — a wool cap pulled down over his face to prevent light from irritating his eyes. He is one of several inmates here Seth says has been granted medical parole, but remain behind bars simply because they don’t have anyone to pick them up.>>As for the fear that some of these men might reoffend – the statistics show that it happens, but it’s rare – just 3 out of every 100 prisoners over 55 return to prison, compared to almost half of all 18-29 year olds.>>They can’t harm nobody else. They can’t harm themselves, you know what I mean. There’s no sense in them being here.>>Seth thinks Sherman Parker should be released too. Sherman is serving two life sentences for shooting and killing two women, when he was 82. He has no chance of leaving prison alive.>>But what about, let’s say the victim’s family like one of the ladies that Mr. Parker shot? Their kids don’t want him out, they think he should serve the rest of his life. I mean, do you understand that point of view, too, or do you think he should be let out?>>Sure, I do. But he’s a hundred and almost 101 years old. You know what I mean? I think he has served his life. You know, I mean, he’s a century old. You know, he’s served his life. Let him go. Yeah, let him go.>>Do you think you need to be in here?>>No, I don’t need to be here. I need to be at home on the farm. That’s where I was born and raised. That’s all I know.>>These people decided. today they will be arrested…>>I know that I’m being surveilled…>>People are not getting the care that they need>>This is a crime against humanity…>>Hands up!>>Don’t shoot!>>Hands up!>>Don’t shoot!>>What do we want?>>Justice!>>When do we want it?>>Now!>>…communicate,,,>>They’re running towards the base…>>…explosions going off… we’re not quite sure what…>>Get em’ how you need?>>To watch more episodes of the Emmy Award winning series Fault Lines, check your local listings or visit aljazeera.com >>Fishkill correctional facility – 70 miles north of New York City. To address the needs of its growing elderly prison population, New York built the nation’s first Unit for the Cognitively Impaired. All these inmates have dementia. Their average age is 63 and many have Alzheimers. We’ve joined the founder and director of the unit, Dr. Edward Sottile, as he does his rounds. Fault Lines is the first television crew to be allowed here. [KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK]>>Mr. Turner…How are you? How are you feeling today? Today Dr. Sottile checks on 59 year old Chris Turner. Serving a sentence for kidnapping and sodomy, he’s also being punished for punching a nurse in the stomach. How are you doing with your arm motions?>>They seem to be a lot better now that you mention it…>>He came to us a couple of years ago with Huntington’s Chorea. That is a genetic disease that is gradually progressive and the patient has these movements that are purposeless-he can’t control his movement. And eventually, what happens is it affects his ability to swallow. And eventually, they deteriorate, they lose weight and they die.>>This unit houses 30 beds – and it’s almost always full.>>Mr. Johnson…>>Yes sir…>>How are you?>>Fine,thank you sir.>>How are you doing today? In the outside world, Inmate Robert Johnson was a heavy gambler…>>Donald Trump flew me all over the world – Hong Kong and all over…>>You have to be kidding>> Oh yeah…I’m not kidding you…I his private jet. – …until his wife cancelled his credit line at the casinos.>>Cause I promised her before I left the house, I would not use my credit line. I keep my word… But she didn’t tell me I couldn’t say I had a credit line.>>OK>>Now he claims he doesn’t remember shooting at her with a rifle. Which raises the question, if prisoners with dementia can’t remember the crimes they committed, how can they be rehabilitated?>>I had the same question. I can’t control that. But not being able to control that, the best that we can do, as physicians and healthcare providers is to manage them in a way that is humane, that’s compassionate, and the only way we can do that is by understanding their disease.>>As the prison population in America continues to age, other states will undoubtedly need units like this one to look after inmates with deteriorating mental capacity, but at 100 thousand dollars a year per inmate, where is the money going to come from? At present, no one seems to have the answer. Three years ago Larry White was released from prison. He’d served a 32 year sentence for armed robbery and felony homicide. He’s 72 now. After so long inside, he has struggled to adapt to life on the outside.>>I would get on the subway and I was so self-conscious that I would break out into a cold sweat. Because it seemed to me that everybody knew that this guy had just come out of prison, that everyone was staring at me. And I would say “What the (bleep) are you looking at? What the (bleep) is the matter?” (laughs)…You can’t do that…>>While locked-up Larry built social networks and programs for prisoners – trying to change the system from within.>>So I organized other prisoners first of all to change the conditions and to oppose how the guards and administration was treating us. That became a movement and it spread from one prison to another.>>Now, Larry is trying to continue that same work from the other side of the fence – advocating for compassionate release for older inmates.>>I’m a firm believe that anybody can change. Now it may take some people longer than others to change. Some people will die before they do change. It’s just that they didn’t live long enough to change. But my whole life now is geared to going back to help those I left behind. That’s my life. I would feel that loss if I couldn’t go back at all…>>It’s to the point that even though you’re out, it’s still in you.>>Yeah, I miss it. I do. I don’t tell people that, but I do.>> Protesters are gatherering…>>There’s an air of tension right now…>>…crowd chanting for democracy…>>This is another signifigant development>>We have an exclusive story tonight, and we go live to… >>Unlike Larry, many prisoners won’t make it out alive. Thousands of inmates will die behind bars in the United States this year. Lewis Young is afraid that he may be one of them. Diagnosed with kidney cancer, Lewis awaits his sentence in the hospital wing of Philadelphia’s Detention Center.>>To have cancer, to be in jail, and not to be around your family. You know, it’s real scary.>>In lieu of family, Lewis has Phyllis Taylor. She’s a correctional chaplain and has developed the hospice program here to help comfort dying prisoners.>>My hope is that if it’s not possible to release the elders and to release the dying into society, that the prisons and jails become home-like. [PRAYING]>>She popped out of the clear blue. She’s like an angel to me right. And I started getting my proper medication, you know, they started giving me morphine…>>Phyllis works with dozens of other dying patients across the state of Pennsylvania. She believes everyone should be allowed to die with dignity.>>A lot of people would say, look they broke the law. They deserve to be there and if they die there, then that’s the choices they made.>>And I would say back ‘each person has value. And there was something redemptive in each person. That nobody’s a throw-away person. This is my community. I’m always going to be behind bars. I’m always going to be there. How can I help at least one other person so my life has meaning?>>Well they call us OG’s OG’s…Original Gangsters… [LAUGHS]>>At 59 Kevin Bartley is a member of the Lifer’s Group at Otisville Correctional Facility in New York. He is serving 15 years to life for his role in a murder during a convenience store robbery.>>We had a Republican governor, that ran on crime and punishment and when he came in he said he didn’t want no one with a violent crime to be released and that was the message he sent throughout the parole department and they took that very seriously.>>Kevin has earned privileges at the prison, he works freely in the storehouse bringing in goods from the outside world. He’s been told that he is a perfect candidate for release but he’s been denied parole every time he has gone before the board, instead he keeps getting “deuced”.>>Two years or deuce is the max they can hold you. I’ve been deuced 8 times. So I’m part of the 16 year over the minimum club.>>When’s your next one?>>My next one is in November 2011.>>Is that going to be your year?>>That’s going to be my year. That’s going to be my year. 31 years in the penitentiary and I will leave.>>Kevin has used his time inside to better himself. He’s received a master’s degree in theology, learned sign language while working with deaf inmates.>>Keeping people incarcerated who are community ready. Ready to go out here and be an asset to the community. To me it’s crazy. Why don’t you release us now while we’re still healthy and able to contribute? Don’t wait until we lose a leg or an arm or our minds…>>So while a crisis that few seem willing to face expands to alarming proportions, Kevin and thousands of other older inmates like him will continue to grow old behind bars.>>You have more people locked up per capita than anywhere else in the civilized world, how can you do that? And you’re always crying about how much money it costs. It’s not solving your problems.>>We have to treat these people as human beings. They are human beings. And they deserve compassion, dignity and respect. And if you treat these people with that, then I think you’re doing the right thing. And I think that’s the reason why we’re here.>>You know you’re in a place where loneliness will kill you. Loneliness…Even though I’m in an institution with 500 other guys, I’m still lonely. You’re still lonely. Lonely inside.

100 thoughts on “Dying Inside: Elderly in Prison – Fault Lines

  • There are some women in prison for killing their abusive husbands or boyfriends, but they feel free because the bastards are not around anymore!

  • There are so many reasons for mental illness…..head injuries, drugs, child abuse, car accidents, get these people NOT ANIMALS…..people….into new facilities,hospitals, state of the art treatment.
    New Dr and nurses to train in how to deal with them and treated with dignity , they do not belong in jail, families are tired , scared ,worried, for our loved ones. Police officers say their hands are sick of it.
    Surely in this day and age we can do better by these folks

  • Amen …God Bless You 8:08, we need solutions, hospitals for these precious people
    Be damned with jail. They need love and well trained Drs and nurses

  • Simple Solutions bring back the death penalty and use it. If you get a life sentence it only stands to reason you may become elderly in jail. Let em die

  • United States gives out sentence suited to the crime. The sentence is meant to keep maniacs off the streets the rest of their life. Too many short sentences given out that give criminals more chances to commit more crimes. Its always blamed on something else or someone else. The criminals never take responsibility for their own actions. This is a sympathy piece for the Liberals. They can't find enough to progress. These people were meant to die in prison. Do a doc on the crimes they committed and the lives of innocents they destroyed. Articles like this are always one sided and they are always Liberal Left Progressiveness propaganda. The same people who want to take guns from law abiding citizens and turn animals in prison loose on society who have shown time and time again they are vicious predators who have no place in a sane society.

  • When they are illiterate like this guy. Let him out he is no harm to anyone. He can barely function properly. Save taxpayers some $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. And, perhaps, bring closure to some of their evil deeds. They probably regrets them.

    I don't feel any ndividual should be caged like a wild animal forever. If that the case All white ppl and socalled Native ppl should be convicted for the rapes little girls and murders of elder ppl and young children.
    Shouldn't we, ADOS, want retributions of some kind.

    There should not be a such ridiculous sentences. These ppl can't do a damn thing. There could be a metal something on his or her body bes, an in plant gadget, up under his or her skin without them now 5he exact spot which monitors their locations and conversations.

    Reconstruct old buildings and place them nearest the families. But be cautious of the mental damaged one. Also, monitor the City, State and Federal institutional employees who have much to do with the psychic abilities of inmates,

    Ase'!

  • Good riddance. Eazy guard jobs! Dam, I wish I could get caught commiting a felony . It's alot better in prison than Social Security. Guards at your bedside.

  • Try putting them in a place where younger inmates won't steal their pain medication. It's money in prison. And the drug addicts thrive.

  • I feel no sympathy for these old guys, they did the crime and pay the price, some of these offenders in this prison are murderers, rapists, paedos, the sympathy goes to the victims, my regret is the UK doesnt have a good justice system, sentencing in the uk is laughable, at least in the US justice system is good,

  • If you release them, where will they go? A nursing home? Nursing homes don't want them. Nobody wants them. So, they stay put.

  • I love how there always the victim and not the persons life they took. Just cause ur old now doesn’t mean u can get out

  • I'm not sure that I would want to be in a nursing home with them or my loved ones.They have lived years where violence took center place.If there was money in the system, it would be better to have a correctional nursing home in every state.

  • Of course the courts would be more likely to release them. 1) most of them are too old/sick to do any major crimes and 2) prisons would rather society pay for the so they don't have to

  • I only feel bad for the innocent men and women that go to jail for minor offenses and get more time than they should, for people that murder and kill may God have mercy on your soul. More young people need to see that this is what happen when you get life with no paroles

  • The part when he said he should be home on the farm and that’s all he knows 😩 yes I agree to let them go after a certain time and that’s my personal opinion in which I am titled to!!! The laws have changed since the 40s and 50s and before and I highly believe some of the sentences given are way too harsh. We don’t know what really happened in all of their cases either and how t was for them growing up. I find this highly interesting and educational at the same time! I am highly eager to communicate with Plutarcho hill. He has to be in a book if I have to write to him myself! These people have hearts and dreams and lives they want to live and it shouldn’t be in there at that stage. They need to be at home especially when it cost 3 times as much and this is tax money we pay as citizens to furnish their healthcare meanwhile we out here getting no care and it’s sadder than hell 😩 y’all know it is. The system is set up as a fund sysytem if y’all didn’t know prison is one of the most money incorporated businesses in this planet. It’s a money racket trust me. I think it’s sad that anyone would let someone die In prison. I’m praying for all

  • This has nothing to do with this video but I just swallowed my top Invisalign on accident. I was drinking and I full on swallowed it and nearly choked. Omg what should I do.

  • This video should be shown in elementary through high schools to show exactly the result of criminal activity when a person is young.

  • In the netherlands we say..older people can better be behind bars..they take care better of them..than in hospitals..

  • I greatly appreciate correctional centre staff for taking good care and helping the elderly prisoner..but at the same time sad to learned that some of elderly prisoner relatives refuses to take them home. It'll be great relief for everyone to fulfill thier last wish, after all they are human too.

  • Those guys are Blessed to be living long lives along with free medical care, but what about the innocent people that they murdered,raped,molested etc? I don't feel sorry for these criminals at all! Sentenced life, die in there!

  • Only murderers rapist and people who hurt the innocent should receive stiff sentences.we definitely have the most power happy judges/prosecutors here in the good old usa

  • You shouldn't have to be in jail if you're over 95+ I doubt the are gonna do much but they are extremely fragile they'd probably scared.

  • There our money goes. Why the government is expanding soooooo much money on theme? They are criminals just put them to sleep and save $ millions

  • In the usa if your sick you cant aford the trement they get for free crazzy if they let them out they be dead for the out side health care system

  • So, what is gentrifications, and how might the process of the increased issuance of housing citations encourage gentrifications.?

  • Damn 0:45 – you are so right… Something crazy like the US justice system doesnt exist in europe! And on their uniforms it says "Department of Corrections"… Are you kidding me? And the people who could change it wont because they want to get elected again. That whole system is ridiculous. Maybe that kind of system was ok 100 years ago but especially in comparison with other western countries it seems that the usa are very backwards regarding their justice system. And certainly it is not fair at all…

  • when I've mastered how to be a serial killer I'll go kill people like this n reduce the population n save government revenue…

  • This is an injustice! Someone who has been incarcerated since 1948, I doubt they will reoffend! This shit is crazy! And politics being afaird of being soft on crime, thats bull shit! We are now learning that politicians are criminals and pedifiles. They are not good people at all. The prison system is a fucking joke. And one day they shall reap what they soe! The prison system is a pressure cooker, ready to explode!

  • Those PRISION guards will be retired and enjoying life . And those inmates will still be there waiting for their freedom . Which may never come . Makes you think doesn't it . Crime and all that it brings gets you nowhere.

  • IF U CANT DO THE TIME, DONT DO THE CRIME, I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR ANY OF U, U DESERVE TO ROT IN HELL FOR UR CRIMES, LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE ISNT GIVEN OUT FOR NOTHING, CONCERTS? WHEN UNDERSTAFFED? WTF IS WRONG WITH U PPL? I BET HIS VICTIM WOULD OF LIKED TO LIVE TO A 100. WHO LIVES TO A 100 IN THE USA WITHOUT FREE HEALTHCARE? PRISONERS!! YAYYYYYY!! WELL DONE USA,

  • The taxpayers spent millions keeping the Mansons alive.  How stupid is that?  In Japan when they can't pay the doctor bills they rob a bank.  It's a win win situation.  Obviously they need to close down prison hospitals and let them die.

  • I don't feel sorry for any of these people even us on the out side of the street,,, there's a consequence for every action.. this is their last chance for God to get ahold of them they're blessed to wake up everyday and hopes maybe they will surrender the rest of their life to God almighty and if they choose not to the reaper will wait for them on the other side in judgment…. God is not one to play games with he is to be feared…

  • Kill or be killed? It was a case of survival? Than why are u in prison? U don't goto prison for self defense. So you're not telling us the full truth Estelle.

  • When you get to the age where you need people to help you get up out of your wheelchair, they need to be in a nursing home or hospital. This is not right

  • Alot of these men Where let out they definitely be Women and children raped and killed. Institutionalize behavior,sick mind's can't heal people.

  • Well if they were released the government would have to pay more to look after them in care homes.
    What most prisons do is have other inmates do work duty to take care of the elderly there. So techinically WHY are prisons spending so much?!

  • This is why we need to do like Saudi capital punishment but no we are a stupid society that thinks we should lock up instead of death pentality I don't feel sorry for any of these killers I feel sorry for the victims families that still suffer from their crimes

  • Kidnapping and sodomy, murdering two women kidnapping with a sawed-off shotgun yeah these sound like minor crimes right question mark LMFAO yeah put yourself in the victim's shoes and then ask yourself if you you'd be so forgiving

  • 70 k a year to lock up and wen a person is down on there luck from a lay-off you only collect 10 fuckin grand. Take 10 from the inmates and add it to Unimployment you greedy America.

  • I don't feel sorry for any of these guys. They committed serious crimes, they should be locked up for life if that was their original sentence.

  • Yeah. The US does give out rather extensive sentences. Those of us who have spent even a few days locked up understand. It doesn’t always have to be life. Especially when sentencing children.

  • I have no problem whatsoever with releasing seriously elderly Safe prisoners. But Decent people probably should have ended their criminal careers earlier. By one way or another …

  • “Let me out now so I can con tru brute to the community”

    Parole board: 1 fish 2 fish red fish blue fish I’m feeling mighty fine take this fool to his cell to finish his time

  • And who is going to pay for there care if they are let out? It said right there some have already been medically paroled but no one is coming to get them. so they have no one that is really the best place for them they will be cared for until they die.
    Like the 100 yr old killer with one leg if he gets let go he needs a place to stay and care be fed bathed moved around, who is going to pay for that and who is going to do it? I don't see any of the people that think these people should be set free running to the prison saying I will take care of them and pay for all their care.

  • At least let them spend their last days with their family at home that's too old to violate your parole two old escaping 🌞

  • Why don't you talk about the hell-holes in your own countries instead of preaching hate against our country.why don't you report on quatar abusing foreign workers no not paying them.These prisoners live a lot better than those foreign workers you don't pay.

  • Elderly incarceration issues would be resolved if churches, with their Christian populations, were fully functioning; not restricted and intimidated by the government* Government restricts and persecutes the church, yet the government cannot solve moral social problems that proliferate in the vacuum. Society suffers the consequences; elderly inmate population grows.
    We need Jesus Christ in our public life: The church would be stronger and would certainly care for the communities around them, reducing crime, boosting academic success, supporting single-parent families, intervening with troubled youth, etc. Government must stop threatening and punishing Christians who want to live their faith in public life*.

    The 2 women this man killed are dead, with no options. Murder is terrible and senseless; as is the punishment. Re the costs for elderly incarceration: many of these people wld be homeless if they were turned out of prison their care wld be still be a burden on society. The bible says capital punishment is appropriate. But liberals think they know better; they don't have long-term solutions.

    Atheists want "freedom from" church and religion …. they have no solution for resulting social problems that nurture freedom. All of their 'solutions' restrict freedoms.
    *Example of counter-productive government interference into morality and areas of faith:
    1. Nurses who are forced to abort babies against their conscience)
    2. Christians have to fight the government just to bake a cake! — how senseless and unfortunate for society. (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3014666/Christian-baker-sued-refusal-make-gay-marriage-cake.html) The bakers were generous people, giving to the community wherever needed. They were senselessly financially burdened by litigation; The baker's philanthropy suffered.
    3. Arkansas courthouse sued for removal of 10 Commandments from Courthouse wall bible edict, including "Thou shalt not kill" from the courthouse. If this were taught there would be less murder; less crime.

  • our whole court system needs a serious over haul period life sentences are ridiculous i also noticed that certain states give higher sentences than others which is not right

  • My grandfather was busted for mainly weed back in 1995 because he didn't give up the king pin for bigger drugs etc the judge sentenced him to 150yrs . 15 yrs later my grandfather became ill, wrote government etc to get proper treatment they ignored him within 2weeks he got jaundice and organ failure . He died in prison 2 days later his case was over turned and they were gonna release him that Monday but he died that Saturday. 150yrs just for fucking weed . And when he was busted they busted him with clean hands they collected against him for months all because they wanted bigger ppl but he never folded and became a preacher etc . He forgave ppl and asked for forgiveness I'm glad they let us family see him but it was a horrible experience to see him on his death bed in prison and to know he was getting released kills me.

  • The United States also doesn’t execute like most of the world.

    Here’s real justice for you, everyone of these lifers are there for a reason! Why don’t we look at what they did? why not document the victims in this series. Do they matter less now that time has passed? Surely not in every case however I don’t pity those that victimized others.

    We will sit there and quote numbers ignoring the cost of a bullet and firing squad. Let me make it clear now I don’t believe we should slaughter and entire prison.
    My point is that every bit of this narrative being pushed is false, this is a problem the same type of people behind the camera have caused

  • Listen to all the idiots here saying they are old and harmless we should let them go..that one guy murdered 2 people when he was 82 ,so shut the hell up…

  • As a retired law enforcement officer, I’ve seen incidents in which elderly offenders murdered (or attempted to murder) larger numbers of people than their twenty-something counterparts. The notion that older people should be released because they are “harmless” is ridiculous. There are innumerable instances of repeat offenders raping, torturing, and yes, killing again after having been released from prison. Many former inmates make successful lives for themselves after release, and do not offend again. Violent criminals very often remain violent; that’s why life sentences exist.

  • Bring back the chain gang and stop letting them lay around and watch degenerate Television shows like Jerry Springer and soap operas make them watch GED classes all day long

  • I don't think pity is needed as much as understanding. I did 14 years in NY State prisons and the truth if the matter is after a decade or decades most people change without even trying, let alone with a reason to change. I can also say without any issue is some people deserve to die in prison and now that they are old and weak doesn't change that. Each case should honestly be reviewed by someone without political ties to see what is what, the parole board is political and people are reduced to just numbers, a doctor that can honestly gauge mental and emotional factors should have a say in if people are released for a mercy at end of life, which happens more then you know. Even old, some of those men are very dangerous and 50 is not 50 in prison, most 50 year old men in prison would run circles around a fit 20 year old on the street.

  • Assisted suicide for terminal patients wanting it to end. States may want to consider a seniors facility( create some jobs), medium security (maybe less), only terminal and seniors with serious medical complications and/or over 70(75).

  • Maybe a separate senior's facility,secured,locked(create some jobs for care workers) for terminally ill inmates, inmates over 75-80 years old and inmates with serious medical ailments( reduced flight risk). Being old should not be a consideration for release.

  • If they are mentally capably of being interviewed then let them go into the details of their murders that got them incarcerated. Let them tell us about the lives they destroyed. They are now old and vulnerable , were their victims vulnerable when they butchered them.? These men at one time were frightening people that had to be approached with extreme caution. Now that they are old and sick they are more like vulnerable children that need the compassion of those looking after them in prison. The only thing that changed these men from brutal inmates was the ageing process.

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