Exclusive: Mark Zuckerberg goes one-on-one with Dana Perino


>>Dana: NOW MARK ZUCKERBERG RUNS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL COMPANIES ON THE PLANET, FACEBOOK. IT’S EVERYWHERE. ODDS ARE, YOU’RE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW. I GOT TO SIT DOWN WITH MARK ZUCKERBERG FOR A RARE INTERVIEW. WE TALKED ABOUT 2020, TAXES ON THE CONSERVATIVES. WE TALKED ABOUT FREE SPEECH AND WHETHER HE THOUGHT IT’S UNDER ATTACK.>>IT’S AN IMPORTANT MOMENT TO STAND UP FOR VOICE AND FREE EXPRESSION HERE AND AROUND THE WORLD. A LOT OF — EVERY WEEK THERE’S DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT COME UP OPEN THE INTERNET. I FEEL LIKE WE DISCUSS OUR POLICIES BY TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC ISSUES AND CASES. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME TO LAY OUT MY FULL VIEWS AND GIVING PEOPLE A VOICE, WHAT THAT HAS MEANT HISTORICALLY, HOW IT’S EMPOWERED PEOPLE AND THE CROSS ROADS THAT WE’RE AT TODAY. BECAUSE WE’RE IN A TIME OF SOCIAL TENSION, THE IMPULSE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE PULLS BACK ON THIS FREE EXPRESSION. THIS ISN’T THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY THAT HAS HAPPENED. WE SAW THAT IMPULSE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, DURING TENSION AFTER THE WORLD WARS. YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS LOOK BACK AND REGRET IT WHEN WE PULL BACK ON FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. I WORRY WE’RE AT A MOMENT TODAY WHERE WE MAY DO THE SAME. SO I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT NOW TO STAND UP FOR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. THAT’S WHAT I WANTED TO DO.>>Dana: IS THAT TRUE EVEN WITH TECHNOLOGY AS TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED THAT THERE WAS INITIAL RESISTANCE?>>OH, YEAH. LOOK, IT’S NOT JUST TECHNOLOGY. WE’VE HAD THIS EXPLOSION OF AN ABILITY TO EXPRESS OURSELVES. THAT’S CULTURAL NORMS, LEGAL PROTECTIONS AND IT’S TECHNOLOGY. MOST AMERICANS ARE AWARE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT IN THE CONSTITUTION. OUR LEGAL RIGHTS TO CALL OUT THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE WRONG HAVE DRAMATICALLY EXPANDED. LIBEL LAWS THAT — IF YOU CALLED SOMETHING OUT IF IT WAS NEGATIVE, EVEN IF IT WAS TRUE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. AND THEN IS THE STANDARD SHIFTED IF THE CREW TEAK WAS IF YOU COULD PROVE IT TRUE, IT WOULD BE OKAY. RELATIVELY RECENTLY HISTORICALLY SPEAKING THAT WE GOTTEN THE ABILITY TO CRITIQUE AND CALL OUT THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE BROADLY WRONG. NOW YOU HAVE THESE MOVEMENTS ONLINE, WHETHER IT’S THE ME TOO MOVEMENT OR DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE PEOPLE ARE SHARING STORIES THAT ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN AGAINST THE LAW TO WRITE DOWN 100 YEARS AGO. THIS IS THIS AMAZING EXPANSION OF VOICE THAT I THINK LEADS TO PROGRESS AND WE NEED TO DEFEND THAT.>>Dana: DO YOU THINK THAT SOCIAL MEDIA HAS IN SOME WAYS BROUGHT OUT THE WORST IN PEOPLE? THAT WE CAN BE MEAN TO EACH OTHER, WE CAN BE BULLYING TOWARDS EACH OTHER AND IF IT’S ANONYMOUS ESPECIALLY. YOU THINK THERE’S A DOWN SIDE TO IT?>>THERE’S CERTAINLY ISSUES. I THINK — YOU ASKED ABOUT TECHNOLOGY. YOU KNOW, WITH THE INTERNET, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY HEY, THIS MAY BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM EVERYTHING THAT HAS COME BEFORE IT. MAYBE WE SHOULD IGNORE OUR HISTORICAL PRECEDENT AROUND DEFENDING FREE EXPRESSION. I THINK THAT THAT’S PROBABLY OVERLY BROAD. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE SAME CRITIQUE WAS MADE ABOUT EVERY TECHNOLOGY FROM THE PRINTING PRESS TO THE RADIO, TO TV. THERE’S SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT ABOUT THE INTERNET THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. MANY MORE PEOPLE HAVE A VOICE AND SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE TO USE THEIR VOICE TO ORGANIZE VIOLENCE. PEOPLE WITH SPREAD MISINFORMATION. PEOPLE CAN FOR NEW TYPES OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO LEAD TO POLARIZATION. YOU CAN LIVE STREAM EVENTS NOW WHICH HELPS US CAPTURE MOMENTS. IT ALSO HELPS PEOPLE STREAM THINGS LIKE TERRIBLE ACTS OF VIOLENCE. FOR EACH OF THESE THINGS, THE INTERNET PLATFORMS AND FACEBOOK ESPECIALLY, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THESE HARMS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THESE RISKS. I FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO THAT IN A WAY THAT STILL PROTECTS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. IT’S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES AND ALSO TO PUSH BACK ON BROADENING THE DEFINITION OF WHAT PEOPLE CONSIDER DANGEROUS ONLINE BEYOND WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.>>Dana: IT’S INTERESTING IT’S COMING THIS WEEK. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE ONE OF THEIR DEBATES THIS WEEK AND IN WHICH THERE WAS A LONG EXCHANGE WITH SENATOR HARRIS OF CALIFORNIA AND ELIZABETH WARREN. KAMALA HARRIS SAYS SHE THINKS THAT TWITTER SHOULD SHUT DOWN PRESIDENT TRUMP’S ACCOUNT. DO YOU THINK THAT IS A RIDICULOUS IDEA?>>IT’S HARD TO WEIGH-IN OPEN TWITTER’S POLICIES. IN GENERAL, NO. MY BELIEF IS THAT IN A DEMOCRACY, I DON’T THINK WE WENT PRIVATE COMPANIES CENSORING POLITICIANS IN THE NEWS. I GENERALLY BELIEVE AS A PRINCIPAL PEOPLE SHOULD DECIDE WHAT IS CREDIBLE AND WHAT THEY WANT TO BELIEVE AND WHO THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR. I DON’T THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TECH COMPANIES OR ANY OTHER COMPANY DOING. SO THAT’S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT. I WORRY ABOUT A SOCIAL TREND TODAY WHERE I SEE MORE PEOPLE ACROSS THE SPECTRUM TRYING TO LABEL DIFFERENT SPEECH OF DANGEROUS. IT MAY LEAD TO POLITICAL OUTCOMES THAT THEY DON’T WANT. THERE’S REAL DANGERS AND HARMS ONLINE THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. WE DEFINITELY NEED TO WORK ON THAT. WE ARE. THERE’S A LOT THAT WE’RE DOING. I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT WE STAND UP FOR EACH OTHER’S RIGHT TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AND BE HEARD.>>SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN, YOU HAD A BACK AND FORTH WITH HER TWITTER. SHE’S VERY FRUSTRATED WITH YOUR NEW POLICY ABOUT NOT BEING WILLING TO POLICE TRUTH AND ADVERTISEMENTS, POLITICAL ADVERTISEMENTS. BASICALLY ASKING HOW COULD FACEBOOK IN GOOD CONSCIOUS TAKE MONEY FOR ADS AND ALLOW THEM TO BE POSTED IF THEY KNOW THE INFORMATION IS FALSE.>>LOOK, I JUST THINK THAT IN A DEMOCRACY, IT’S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT POLITICIANS ARE SAYING. POLITICAL SPEECH IS THE MOST SCRUTINIZED OUT THERE IT’S ALREADY HAPPENING. OUR POSITION ON THIS IS NOT AN OUTLIER. THE OTHER MAJOR INTERNET PLATFORMS, GOOGLE, TWITTER, YOUTUBE, OTHER MEDIA, WHETHER IT’S FOX OR NBC OR ABC OR CBS, ALL RAN THE SAME ADS, TOO.>>YOU’RE SAYING FACEBOOK IS NEUTRAL IN THIS. THE NEUTRALITY THOUGH HELP BAD ACTORS MORE THAN PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET THE GOOD INFORMATION OUT?>>I DON’T THINK SO. THIS IS CLEARLY A VERY SINCIVE AREA. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I’VE LOOKED AT OVERALL, GIVEN THIS KNOW CUSS ON POLITICAL ADS, SHOULD WE BE IN POLITICAL ADS AT ALL? SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BLOCK COMPLETELY? FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, THE CONTROVERSY THAT THIS CREATES IS CLEARLY NOT WORTH THE VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF OUR BUSINESS THAT IS BASED ON POLITICAL ADS. IT’S NOT REALLY ANYWHERE NEAR A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO. BUT THE REASON WHY I’VE STOOD UP FOR THIS IS THERE’S REALLY TWO. ONE IS PRINCIPLE AND ONE IS PRACTICAL. THE PRINCIPLE IS THAT ADS CAN BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF VOICE. IF YOU’RE A CHALLENGER POLITICAL CANDIDATE OR IF YOU’RE RUNNING AN ADVOCACY GROUP AND THE MEDIA DOESN’T COVER WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT, ADS CAN BE A WAY TO INJECT YOUR MESSAGE AND MAKE IT BE PART OF THE DEBATE AND SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DISCUSS. SO BANNING POLITICAL ADS FAVORS INCUMBENTS AND FAVORS WHOEVER THE MEDIA CHOOSES TO COVER.>>Dana: FUNNY YOU SAY THAT. ELIZABETH WARREN SAID HE WOULDN’T TAKE MONEY FROM CERTAIN BIG TECH EXECUTIVES FOR HER CAMPAIGN BUT SHE DOES DO A LOT OF FUND-RAISING THROUGH GRASS ROOTS ENGAGEMENT ON YOUR PLATFORM.>>SURE. AS DO A LOT OF FOLKS. THIS IS — A LOT OF THE MOVEMENT BUILDING. THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS POSITIVE USE OF THE INTERNET. NOW IDEAS AND FUND RAISERS AND MOVEMENTS AND PEOPLE CAN GROW BUSINESSES QUICKER THAN COULD EVER HAPPEN BEFORE. A LOT OF GOOD COMES FROM THIS AND THERE’S HARM THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MITIGATE. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IN FRONT OF THINGS THAT COULD CAUSE REAL DANGER. WE HAVE A MASSIVE INVESTMENT IN THIS TODAY. WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE THAN 35,000 PEOPLE AT THE COMPANY WHO WORK ON SECURITY ALL IN.>>IS THAT IN REACTION TO THE 2016 ELECTION AND COMPLAINTS AND THE CONCERNS ABOUT ELECTION SECURITY AND RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE? YOU THINK FACEBOOK IS IN A BETTER POSITION FOR 2020 WITH MORE PROTECTION?>>YEAH, IT’S — YOU KNOW, WE INCREASED THE INVESTMENT IN SECURITY FOR A LOT OF REASONS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. YOU KNOW, NOW OUR SECURITY BUDGET TODAY IS GREATER THAN THE WHOLE REVENUE WAS WHEN WE WENT PUBLIC IN 2012. QUITE AN INVESTMENT. ONE OF THE AREAS IS ELECTION SECURITY. YOU KNOW, SINCE 2016, WE’VE PLAYED A ROLE IN DEFENDING AGAINST ELECTION INTERFERENCE AGAINST THE WORLD. IT WAS THE FRENCH ELECTION, THE GERMAN FEDERAL ELECTION, ELECTIONS IN MEXICO, BRAZIL AND ACROSS THE E.U. RECENTLY. WHAT WE SEE, THESE NATION STATES, THEY KEEP GETTING MORE SOPHISTICATED IN WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO DO. BUT WE’RE ABLE TO BUILD A.I. SYSTEMS THAT CAN SPOT CLUSTERS OF ACCOUNTS THAT ARE NOT BEHAVING THE WAY THAT PEOPLE WOULD SO WE CAN SHUT THEM OFF. WE HAVE BETTER PARTNERSHIPS WITH GOVERNMENTS AND INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITIES AND ELECTION COMMISSIONS AROUND THE WORLD SO WE CAN FIND THIS STUFF AND SHUT IT DOWN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT IS WE PUT IN A PROGRAM OF VERIFICATION. IF YOU WANT TO RUN A POLITICAL AD TODAY, YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY GIVE US A VALID GOVERNMENT I.D. AND PROVE YOUR LOCATION SO WE KNOW YOU’RE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. YOU’RE STILL ABLE TO FAKE CONTROVERSY. YOU STILL HAVE TO STAND BEHIND THEM AND FACE ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR POLITICAL DISCOURSE.>>Dana: YOU THINK THERE’S A BIAS AGAINST CONSERVATIVES IN SILICON VALLEY?>>I THINK IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU SAY IT. I DON’T THINK THAT THE SERVICES THEMSELVES — I HAVEN’T SEEN A LOT OF DATA THAT SUGGESTED THAT THERE’S A NEGATIVE IMPACT. IN FACT, A LOT OF CONSERVATIVE MEDIA DOES QUITE WELL ON SOCIAL MEDIA, NOT JUST FACEBOOK BUT THE OTHERS AS WELL. LOOK, I MEAN, CALIFORNIA IS AN OVERWHELMINGLY LEFT-LEANING PLACE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLITICAL DONATIONS FROM THE TECH COMPANIES, IT’S 90 PLUS% OF THEM GO TO DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE WOULD ASK THE QUESTION OF ARE MY IDEAS GETTING A FAIR SHAKE. ALTHOUGH I CAN SAY ON THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BE A PLATFORM FOR ALL IDEAS. I THINK THAT GIVING EVERYONE A VOICE IS IMPORTANT. THAT’S HOW WE MAKE PROGRESS. THAT’S WHY I’VE TRIED TO HAVE A DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE BOTH OF VIEWS AND BACKGROUND AT THE COMPANY. LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, ON ALL THE TEAMS THAT ARE MAKING RELEVANT DECISIONS ABOUT CONTENT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I TAKE SERIOUSLY.>>DO YOU GET PUSH BACK FOR THAT STANCE OF YOURS FROM EMPLOYEES AT YOUR COMPANY?>>I MEAN, SOMETIMES. THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE DEBATED BACK AND FORTH. LOOK, I THINK THERE’S LOTS OF ELEMENTS OF — I WANT TO MAKE SURE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VIEWS ARE REPRESENTED AT THE COMPANY. IT’S NOT JUST POLITICAL VIEWS. IT’S RELIGIOUS VIEWS AND DIFFERENT RACIAL BACKGROUND AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF VIEWS. WE ARE ALSO A VERY GLOBAL COMPANY. WE’RE BASED IN THE U.S. AND PROUD OF THAT. A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE U.S. I THINK THAT IS ALL PART OF BUILDING A SERVICE WHERE YOU CAN HELP BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD EXERCISE THEIR VOICE AND FREE EXPRESSION TO HELP BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND MAKE THEIR COMMUNITIES BETTER.>>Dana: BASICALLY THE GOVERNMENT IS COMING AT YOU IN THREE WAYS. THEY THINK YOU’RE TOO BIG, TOO NOSEY AND TOO IRRESPONSIBLE. SOME WANT TO BREAK FACEBOOK UP. THEY THINK ANTITRUST IS THE WAY TO DO THAT. SOME THINK THAT — MAYBE YOU AGREE — CONTENT SHOULD POSSIBLY BE REGULATED. AND THEN OTHERS THINK YOU’RE NOT RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH WITH PRIVATE DATA AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THOSE IN TURN? WASHINGTON IS GOING TO KEEP KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR. I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT YOU THINK THAT WASHINGTON HAS A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO DO THIS THAN YOU DO.>>SO I THINK THERE’S A NUMBER OF REAL ISSUES RIGHT NOW. EARLIER THIS YEAR, I WROTE AN OP-ED CALLING FOR FOUR AREAS WHERE I THOUGHT THE INTERNET WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE GOVERNMENT SETTING CLEARER RULES. IT WAS AROUND WHAT CONTENT IS PERMISSIBLE IN ELECTIONS, IN ADS, SOME ABOUT CONTENT IN GENERAL. PRIVACY AND DATA PORTABILITY. WE AS A COMPANY HAVE THE GREATEST RESPONSIBILITY HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROACTIVELY MAKE SURE THAT THERE’S NOT HARM OR DANGER HAPPENING ON OUR PLATFORM. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON’T THINK THAT PEOPLE WANT ANY GIVEN PRIVATE COMPANY TO BE MAKING SO MANY IMPORTANT DECISIONS ABOUT SPEECH OR ELECTIONS. RUNNING THE COMPANY, I THINK WE MAKE TOO MANY IMPORTANT DECISIONS ABOUT SPEECH. SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE ANSWER? HAVING MORE DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES, SOME CLEARER RULES FOR THE INTERNET OR SOME NEW INSTITUTIONS WHICH WE’RE TRYING TO CREATE WITH THIS INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT BOARD THAT WE’RE SETTING UP OURSELVES SO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN APPEAL CONTENT DECISIONS AND IT WILL MAKE A FINAL BINDING DECISIONS –>>Dana: LIKE CONSERVATIVE OR A LIBERAL HAS A CONCERN –>>ANYONE FROM ANY DIFFERENT TAKE.>>Dana: YOU DON’T THINK THE COMPANY SHOULD BE BROKEN UP?>>NO. I DON’T THINK THAT’S THE RIGHT ANSWER. I THINK THERE ARE REAL ISSUES. THERE’S ISSUES AROUND PROTECTING ELECTIONS AND WHAT POLITICAL DISCOURSE SHOULD BE ALLOWED. THERE’S ISSUES AROUND WHAT CONTENT SHOULD BE ALLOWED. THERE’S PRIVACY QUESTIONS AND ALSO QUESTIONS AROUND PEOPLE SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO TAKE THEIR DATA TO OTHER APPs FOR — TO FACILITATE INNOVATION AND COMPETITION AND ACADEMIC RESEARCH. THAT WAY WE CAN ADVANCE SOCIETY THAT WAY. BUT I BASICALLY THINK EACH OF THOSE PROBLEMS REQUIRES WORK ON OUR PART, BUT ALSO CLEARER RULES THAT HAVE TO COME FROM EITHER THE GOVERNMENT OR SOME KIND OF INDEPENDENT SELF-REGULATORY SITUATION. RIGHT NOW WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING IS — I THINK PEOPLE ARE NOT SEEING ENOUGH PROGRESS ON SOME OF THAT REGULATION. I THINK WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN TERMS OF PROTECTING INTEGRITY OF ELECTIONS. CERTAINLY A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT WERE THERE A FEW YEARS AGO. WE CAN LOOK AT ELECTIONS AROUND THE WORLD AND SEE THAT OUR SYSTEMS ARE BETTER.>>Dana: DO YOU REGRET IT WASN’T READY BEFORE?>>WE CERTAINLY WERE TOO SLOW TO BEING ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE MISINFORMATION OPERATIONS THAT RUSSIA WAS RUNNING IN 2016.>>Dana: BERNIE SANDERS HAS SAID THAT YOU DON’T THINK BILLIONAIRES SHOULD EXIST. MAYBE YOU SAID I DON’T BELIEVE I EARNED THIS MUCH MONEY. DO YOU BELIEVE YOU EARNED YOUR MONEY FAIR AND SQUARE?>>WHAT I SAID, I DON’T BELIEVE IN SOME COSMIC SENSE THAT NUMBER DESERVES TO HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON’T REALLY GOOD THINGS. AND HELP A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE. YOU GET WELL-COMPENSATED FOR THAT. AT SOME LEVEL, THAT’S REALLY A LOT OF WEALTH. NOW, IT’S NOT NECESSARILY THAT I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE POLICY PRESCRIPTIONS THAT SOME OF THESE FOLKS ARE PUTTING FORWARD. SOME PEOPLE THINK, OKAY, THE ISSUE OR THE WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS ACCUMULATION OF WEALTH IS TO LET’S HAVE THE GOVERNMENT TAKE IT ALL AND NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN BASICALLY DECIDE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE MEDICAL RESEARCH THAT GETS DONE OR — I PERSONALLY BELIEVE — I SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME AS OUR PHILANTHROPIC INITIATIVE THAT I RUN WITH MY WIFE. BASICALLY I THINK IT’S GOOD THAT THERE’S DIFFERENT PHILANTHROPIES AND DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN PUT COMPETING IDEAS OUT ABOUT HOW TO DO RESEARCH OR SCIENCE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT WE’RE DOING>>Dana: BACK NOW TO MY INTERVIEW WITH MARK ZUCKERBERG. I ASKED HIM ABOUT PRIVACY AND WHETHER PEOPLE CAN FEEL SAFE WITH THEIR INFORMATION ONLINE. I ASKED HIM WHAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HE’S TRYING TO SOW RIGHT NOW. HERE’S WHAT HE SAID.>>RIGHT NOW, THE BALANCE THAT I’M TRYING TO GET RIGHT IS WHILE WE’RE WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE BIG SOCIAL ISSUES, AROUND SPEECH AND CONTENT AND PRIVACY AND DATA PORTABILITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO DEFEND PEOPLE’S ABILITY TO HAVE A VOICE AND STAND UP FOR FREE EXPRESSION. IT IS ABSOLUTELY — WE ARE AT ACROSS ROADS NOW NOT ONLY IN OUR COUNTRY AND OUR CULTURE WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE AN IMPULSE TO PULL BACK ON THAT BUT AROUND THE WORLD. WE’RE SEEING THIS WITH INCREASINGLY — SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY PLATFORMS OUT OF CHINA AND THE CENSORSHIP THERE. THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO STAND UP FOR PEOPLE’S VOICE AND FREE EXPRESSION. BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS CRITICAL TO OUR PROGRESS.>>Dana: PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR PRIVACY. WHAT CAN YOU TELL THEM TO ASSURE THEM THAT THEIR INFORMATION IS SAFE, IT’S NOT GOING TO — THEY’RE NOT GOING TO WAKE UP AND FIND OUT THEIR DATA HAS BEEN SOLD TO ANOTHER COMPANY OR LEAKED. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR THAT?>>SURE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE DON’T SELL DATA. WE HAVE A LONGSTANDING AND VERY STRONG SECURITY PROGRAM AGAINST HACKING. WE ALSO ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE FTC TO BASICALLY BUILD A MUCH MORE RIGOROUS PRIVACY PROGRAM AT THE COMPANY. YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THIS AS WHERE WE’RE DOING THIS SAME INTERNAL CONTROLS AND AUDITS AROUND PEOPLE’S PERSONAL DATA AS WE DO AS A PUBLIC COMPANY AROUND ALL THE FINANCIAL DATA AND INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. SO IT’S A VERY RIGOROUS PROGRAM. IT’S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE MORE THAN 1,000 PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS. AND WE JUST THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE CAN HAVE ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE WHEN USING OUR SERVICES THAT WE HAVE REALLY STRONG SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE –>>Dana: PRIORITY NUMBER 1.>>YEAH. ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW THAT’S PART OF THE TOP PRIORITY AND THE MOST CRITICAL THING WE’RE WORKING ON, IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM. IT’S A NEW STANDARD FOR THE INDUSTRY. I THINK THAT’S IMPORTANT. LOOK, HISTORICALLY WE — I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. AND IN THE PAST, WE’VE MADE MISTAKES. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN EARN PEOPLE’S TRUST AND WE’LL DO THAT OPERATING AT A LEVEL OF

100 thoughts on “Exclusive: Mark Zuckerberg goes one-on-one with Dana Perino

  • Mark is basically advocating for leaner rules on running political ads. I approve! Basically the free market at work here.

  • What did he say about doing audits on people’s personal data like they would audit their company’s financial data?? What does auditing personal data actually mean??

  • Facebook, twitter, and all the other social media sites are the worst thing to happen to us ever. They are fake eco systems that encourage hate, divisiveness, and fakery. If he cared, he would shut it down.

  • Brilliant, visionary engineer. Horrible communicator. He is a weak spokesman for his own company and comes across confused and scattered – which drips of dishonesty.

  • I'm fairly sure that nobody on here actually believes mark. Don't worry my friends, Once the government gets done with its investigation into Facebook and Google, we will find out what is really what. Fortunately, the business that they are both in leaves them pretty exposed to investigation now….and in the future. Tread lightly mark. Big brother is watching. Lol.

  • Look at him back peddling since Facebook is no longer even in the top 10 most popular social platform. When Facebook was at the top he sure did have a different opinion. I never had Facebook because I took the time to read through what rights you give up in those disclosure agreement. Talk about abuse!!!

  • What Mark clearly means is China controls his voice. Being said that, he is begging the public to support his. Power and confidence is within us. A real and successful leader does not need anyones validation. Zuckerberg mind is already corrupted and as much as we the people would like to help, it's his within which will change his thoughts, imagination and memory. For the viewers, readers and leaders, it's time to help all the ones standing in front of us. By helping them I mean not powering their lies. Teaching them the power of their within and elaborating to them that nothing without will make a change unless they think different within. Key note is Facebook and Instagram were created for pornography, bullying and hostile ads. Zuckerberg excuses is only making him weak and insecure. Mark continuously mentioned "giving voice to the people" in this speech. Hence, it is visual the only voice he is giving is to the following topics; porn, politics and peer pressure. For all of you who read my comment, please take a moment to look at the bigger picture. We are currently living in a world where integrity is not noticed, taught and understood . Please, take a moment in your memory to think of any leader in the world which has integrity. Integrity is the light to our Pure Intentional Voice. Unfortunately corrupted and bully leaders such as Zuckerberg are the main reason why Leaders which lead by Integrity don't have a voice. I need my readers that had a moment to fire and wire the right neurons in their circuit to stop giving time and power to apps and website such as facebook and Instagram. We then will see humanity think balanced, equal, clever and right.

  • I am a conservative Christian, but I have many liberal friends. I see and hear from them that Facebook censor them. They think that Facebook picks on them. So see Facebook gets on everyone,not just conservatives or Christians, but everyone equally.

  • Ihope it is sincere but im afraid it is only a way to deal with the recent critique against facebook for cencoring actors and stop the flight from facebook to other platforms

  • Facebook is a giant scam… how come you can never delete your account, oh thats right if you did then their user base would decline. Used it years ago for a month hated it, followed process to delete and last year they hit my Inbox with an email and hit link and Bam account is not deleted just inactive.

  • Saying the right things, i think hes covering his shareholders. Interesting thing was helping with election interference in France, Germany, Canada, all voted leftist globalist😮

  • this guy look like howdy doody with that geeky haircut. It's like he is trying to hard to look and act like a freaking geek. Not to mention the Dana chick is the weakest interviewer ever . She didn't even go after him at all.

  • Why is FB still tracking you even when you don't have a FB acc.? He should pay every FB-User the money, he earns with selling information about him! Guess there's a significant increase of income for every American!!!

  • He's the grandson of the Rockefeller's…who admit to trying to achieve a one world order and thank the "media" for keeping their secrets..what would you expect..and he's been inducted into the CIA…all facts if you care to research it.

  • He also spent a few months in China learning how they police their internet and control you through that resource…. but hey, he has a lot of FB friends and likes..lmao

  • Everybody needs to calm down, “ corporations should not be censoring politicians” what’s wrong with that statement? I think he’s going on the right direction.

  • I can say with certainty Mark Z, people are in awe of your fame and fortunes.(period) But Mark Z you have totally lost the respect of the"people". History will not be kind to you.

  • Through Facebook, it seems, free expression has given ability to unsubstantiate hurt others and give rise to more self-censorship, mob-rule, and outrageous outbursts.

  • T-ball, soft-lob questions. Horrible. I like Dana but this was awful. This wasn't an interview. She gave him a platform to spout more hypocritical BS. And his answers were prepared, which made it even worse. He is such a bad liar, even when given time to prepare his lies. The whole thing was creep worthy.

  • Politcal commercials have been disingenuous and filled with lies since their inception…why is it now facebook’s job to not allow certain ads to run? Its ridiculous, go after trump’s campaign for false information, not facebook…
    Right?

  • You know I think Zuckerberg is actually a good dude. Intelligent whatever the case. And I am usually a huge skeptic and a cynic— but in this case think he was young and in the Bay Area starting a tech company so had no real option but leaning to the left and now is starting to grow up and see how the left really works and is thinking man eff that…. did anybody see how the left treated him and his interview with Congress today? that is really what led me to believe there's a modicum of Truth to what he's saying

  • I believe him tbh. I’ve watched hours of his testimony and interviews. He’s good imo…I’m sure you have one as well.

  • As long as it is not destructive or calls for violence and or life threatening, shutting down ads because it does not align to another one’s views is so dictatorial and totalitarian like communist china. Let speech flow freely and let the people make the decisions themselves.

  • when i listen to zucks responses, i often wonder how much power he has handed to sandberg, and whether she may have more influence on the the aspects of censorship on facebook. just a thought.

  • My God, just listen to him, he thinks he is so righteous. I know what's better for you all.., shut up and listen… This is Anti-American. He is anti-American.

  • He doesn't really discuss the question of 'Free Speech', he discusses 'Freedom Of Expression'! two very different things! Mr. Zuckerberg, unfortunately Silicone valley unleashed the Genie from the bottle!, and now they want to 'EDIT' the genie!Mr Zuckerberg! the only way that we can have 'Free Speech', is by having 'Free Speech'! 100 percent transparency is far superior to policing what you seem to think is your own personal genie! Using your definition of keeping the naughty genie from being influenced and making poor choices with his talents and power, you seem to want to justify your King Solomon like wisdom filled decisions as Editor of The Planet. So God then?

  • Its time to be a very brave man Mr. Zuckerberg and risk freedom of speech, not expression Mr. Zuckerberg!I think that you are afraid of what has been created. The effects of Freedom Of Speech on the planet could be infinitely better for the planet than censorship! Its a big leap of faith! But it could work out better than anyone could have dreamed possible!

  • You remember that episode of Star Trek: The next generation when Data got his emotion chip and freaked out… yeah…

  • Mark Zuckerberg needs slow down financing conservatives.. and start financing liberals more.. he's taking a beating from these liberals.. he definitely wasn't prepared? he thought it was going to be a room full of conservatives?. Ouch 😁😖😫

  • Don't use Facebook and Instagram. Problem solved. You sheeps are addicted to likes and will portrait anything fake to get this likes. Perfect life's, perfect pictures. If you really don't trust this guy(which you shouldn't) delete the app. I bet many of you can't live without it. Your just a puppet if you distrust this guy but still use his tech. If you use Google to search, you can be sure the algorithm will force a certain narrative with bias search results the first 10 pages. Dont blame the company if you keep empowering them, by using it. Simple common sense. Njoy your Instagram page.

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