Flashpoint, Whole Episode, 10-6-19


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Cheesy 10-Sack for $6.99. Only at White Castle!>>THE PRESIDENT DOUBLES DOWN.>>THE PRESIDENT DOUBLES DOWN.
UNDER FIRE FOR HIS EFFORTS TO UNDER FIRE FOR HIS EFFORTS TO
GET UKRAINE TO INVESTIGATE JOE GET UKRAINE TO INVESTIGATE JOE
AND HUNTER BIDEN. AND HUNTER BIDEN.
THE PRESIDENT MAKES AN OUT IN THE PRESIDENT MAKES AN OUT IN
THE OPEN REQUEST TO CHINA. THE OPEN REQUEST TO CHINA.
PAUL MITCHELL IS HERE TO TALK PAUL MITCHELL IS HERE TO TALK
ABOUT IT. ABOUT IT.
AND WHY IS IT HARD TO GET A AND WHY IS IT HARD TO GET A
LOOK AT OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS IN LOOK AT OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS IN
MICHIGAN? MICHIGAN?
WE LOOK AT WHETHER THE LAWS WE LOOK AT WHETHER THE LAWS
NEED CHANGING. NEED CHANGING.
TODAY IS SUNDAY, OCTOBER 6, TODAY IS SUNDAY, OCTOBER 6,
2019 AND THIS IS FLASHPOINT. 2019 AND THIS IS FLASHPOINT.
>WELCOME WE ARE GLAD YOU’RE>WELCOME WE ARE GLAD YOU’RE
WITH US THIS SUNDAY MORNING. WITH US THIS SUNDAY MORNING.
THE SCENE IN WASHINGTON IS THE SCENE IN WASHINGTON IS
EITHER REACHING AND IMPEACHMENT EITHER REACHING AND IMPEACHMENT
BOILING POINT OR IT IS REALLY BOILING POINT OR IT IS REALLY
NOTHING AT ALL TO WORRY ABOUT. NOTHING AT ALL TO WORRY ABOUT.
LL DEPENDING ON YOUR POINT OF LL DEPENDING ON YOUR POINT OF
VIEW.
T IS AN EXTRA TIME. VIEW.
T IS AN EXTRA TIME.
KIND OF REMINDER OF THE STRESS. KIND OF REMINDER OF THE STRESS.
WHAT COLOR IS IT? WHAT COLOR IS IT?
MANY START VERY DIFFERENT. MANY START VERY DIFFERENT.
AND ISN’T THAT HOW WE ARE IN AND ISN’T THAT HOW WE ARE IN
POLITICS IN 2019? POLITICS IN 2019?
WHAT COLOR IS THE DRESS TO YOU? WHAT COLOR IS THE DRESS TO YOU?
IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO
WITH THE NEWS SOURCES YOU WITH THE NEWS SOURCES YOU
FREQUENT. FREQUENT.
WE BECOME AS DIVIDED MEDIA AS WE BECOME AS DIVIDED MEDIA AS
POLITICS. POLITICS.
IN FACT, A LITTLE LATER WE WILL IN FACT, A LITTLE LATER WE WILL
TALK ABOUT A TERRIBLY IMPORTANT TALK ABOUT A TERRIBLY IMPORTANT
JOURNALISM INFORMATION AND THE JOURNALISM INFORMATION AND THE
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
MICHIGAN USUALLY RANKS AT THE MICHIGAN USUALLY RANKS AT THE
BOTTOM WHEN IT COMES TO BOTTOM WHEN IT COMES TO
TRANSPARENCY RANKINGS. TRANSPARENCY RANKINGS.
WE’LL TALK ABOUT WHY. WE’LL TALK ABOUT WHY.
A FIRST REPUBLICAN, SUMMONED A FIRST REPUBLICAN, SUMMONED
PAUL MITCHELL. PAUL MITCHELL.
HE SO FRUSTRATED WITH THE HE SO FRUSTRATED WITH THE
CURRENT CLIMATE THAT HE’S CURRENT CLIMATE THAT HE’S
LEAVING AFTER HIS CURRENT TERM. LEAVING AFTER HIS CURRENT TERM.
BUT BEFORE THAT HE WILL BE BUT BEFORE THAT HE WILL BE
ASKED TO VOTE ON IMPEACHMENT. ASKED TO VOTE ON IMPEACHMENT.
WHAT COLOR IS THE DRESS TO HIM? WHAT COLOR IS THE DRESS TO HIM?
HE IS A FIRST THIS MORNING ON HE IS A FIRST THIS MORNING ON
“FLASHPOINT”. “FLASHPOINT”.
FOR SO LONG WE HAD THE FOR SO LONG WE HAD THE
PRESIDENT SAY NO COLLUSION. PRESIDENT SAY NO COLLUSION.
AND NOW HE SAYS YES, I AM AND NOW HE SAYS YES, I AM
COLLUDING AND IT IS MY ABSOLUTE COLLUDING AND IT IS MY ABSOLUTE
RIGHT. RIGHT.
LET’S TALK ABOUT IT WITH LET’S TALK ABOUT IT WITH
REPUBLICAN, PAUL MITCHELL OF REPUBLICAN, PAUL MITCHELL OF
THE 10TH DISTRICT. THE 10TH DISTRICT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
>>THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU.
>>I DON’T KNOW IF ANYTHING IS>>I DON’T KNOW IF ANYTHING IS
HAPPENED THIS WEEK TO CHANGE HAPPENED THIS WEEK TO CHANGE
YOUR THINKING ON WHAT YOU HAVE YOUR THINKING ON WHAT YOU HAVE
SEEN BUT WE’VE COME A LONG WAY SEEN BUT WE’VE COME A LONG WAY
FROM THE PRESIDENT SAYING HE FROM THE PRESIDENT SAYING HE
WOULD NOT COLLUDE WITH A WOULD NOT COLLUDE WITH A
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO NOT FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO NOT
TELLING US NOT ONLY THAT HE HAS TELLING US NOT ONLY THAT HE HAS
BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT WITH BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT WITH
UKRAINE BUT HE IS URGING CHINA UKRAINE BUT HE IS URGING CHINA
TO HELP OUT. TO HELP OUT.
>>I THINK OF KIND OF A POSING>>I THINK OF KIND OF A POSING
NARRATIVE GOING ON — OPPOSING NARRATIVE GOING ON — OPPOSING
NARRATIVES. NARRATIVES.
WHEN TRYING TO RULE OUT WHEN TRYING TO RULE OUT
CORRUPTION AND ONE SAYING THAT CORRUPTION AND ONE SAYING THAT
YOU’RE TRYING TO USE IT AS A YOU’RE TRYING TO USE IT AS A
POLITICAL TOOL. POLITICAL TOOL.
I THINK WE NEED THE NARRATIVE I THINK WE NEED THE NARRATIVE
FOR MASTER THE TRANSCRIPT FROM FOR MASTER THE TRANSCRIPT FROM
VOLKER’S APPEARANCE. VOLKER’S APPEARANCE.
WE NEED TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE SAY WE NEED TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE SAY
TRANSPIRED THROUGH THE TRANSPIRED THROUGH THE
SITUATION IN UKRAINE. SITUATION IN UKRAINE.
>>DO WE REALLY WANT TO SAY>>DO WE REALLY WANT TO SAY
THIS IS ABOUT CORRUPTION? THIS IS ABOUT CORRUPTION?
IT WOULD BE REFRESHING FOR THE IT WOULD BE REFRESHING FOR THE
PRESIDENT TO BE READ BY PRESIDENT TO BE READ BY
CORRUPTION WE TALKED ABOUT KIM CORRUPTION WE TALKED ABOUT KIM
JONG-UN BY DEFINITION WHICH IS JONG-UN BY DEFINITION WHICH IS
ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT
CREATURES ON THE PLANET. CREATURES ON THE PLANET.
>>CHINA IS A BIG ISSUE RIGHT>>CHINA IS A BIG ISSUE RIGHT
NOW. NOW.
>>CHINA, WE DO NOT TRUST THEM>>CHINA, WE DO NOT TRUST THEM
WHETHER IT IS THE VALUE OF WHETHER IT IS THE VALUE OF
THEIR CURRENCY OR INTELLECTUAL THEIR CURRENCY OR INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY. PROPERTY.
NOW WANT TO TRUST THEM WITH NOW WANT TO TRUST THEM WITH
THEIR ABILITY TO INVESTIGATE THEIR ABILITY TO INVESTIGATE
SOMETHING? SOMETHING?
>>IMPEACHMENT IS NOT A>>IMPEACHMENT IS NOT A
POLITICAL TOOL. POLITICAL TOOL.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD
DO BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT DO BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS OF WHAT
SOMEONE DID AND WE NEED SOMEONE DID AND WE NEED
INFORMATION. INFORMATION.
THIS BEEN AN ONGOING THIS BEEN AN ONGOING
INFORMATION — WILL HAVE A INFORMATION — WILL HAVE A
CREDIBILITY CRISIS BECAUSE HOW CREDIBILITY CRISIS BECAUSE HOW
MANY TIMES CAN YOU SAY THIS IS MANY TIMES CAN YOU SAY THIS IS
IMPEACHABLE AND THEN YOU LOOK IMPEACHABLE AND THEN YOU LOOK
AT THIS AND SAY NO, IT IS NOT. AT THIS AND SAY NO, IT IS NOT.
QUESTION IS, LET’S GET THE QUESTION IS, LET’S GET THE
INFORMATION ABOUT THIS INFORMATION ABOUT THIS
CONVERSATION THAT TRANSPIRED CONVERSATION THAT TRANSPIRED
AND SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING AND SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING
THERE. THERE.
RIGHT NOW HE HAS NOT DONE RIGHT NOW HE HAS NOT DONE
ANYTHING THAT IS IMPEACHABLE. ANYTHING THAT IS IMPEACHABLE.
>>ISN’T PART OF THE PRESIDENTS>>ISN’T PART OF THE PRESIDENTS
PROBLEM THAT THE STORY ALWAYS PROBLEM THAT THE STORY ALWAYS
SHIFTS? SHIFTS?
I WAS THAT WHAT GAVE THE RUSSIA I WAS THAT WHAT GAVE THE RUSSIA
INVESTIGATION SO MUCH LIFE WAS INVESTIGATION SO MUCH LIFE WAS
ALL THE LYING OVER WHO MET WITH ALL THE LYING OVER WHO MET WITH
RUSSIA, WHEN, HOW MANY PEOPLE, RUSSIA, WHEN, HOW MANY PEOPLE,
WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT. WHAT THEY TALKED ABOUT.
ALL OF THESE CRAZY THINGS. ALL OF THESE CRAZY THINGS.
WHICH GETS PEOPLE IN THE WHICH GETS PEOPLE IN THE
INVESTIGATIVE WORLD ON THEIR INVESTIGATIVE WORLD ON THEIR
HAUNCHES. HAUNCHES.
AND THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED THIS AND THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED THIS
WEEK.
HE PRESIDENT SAID THIS WEEK.
HE PRESIDENT SAID THIS
WAS ALL HEARSAY, THE WAS ALL HEARSAY, THE
WHISTLEBLOWERS REPORT DID NOT WHISTLEBLOWERS REPORT DID NOT
MATCH THE TRANSCRIPT. MATCH THE TRANSCRIPT.
NOW HE’S BASICALLY SAYING YES, NOW HE’S BASICALLY SAYING YES,
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED BUT IT’S THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED BUT IT’S
FINE. FINE.
IS NOT THE PROBLEM WHEN THE IS NOT THE PROBLEM WHEN THE
STORY SHIFTS THAT WAY? STORY SHIFTS THAT WAY?
>>I THINK THE QUESTION>>I THINK THE QUESTION
REMAINS, WAS THERE A CLEAR WHAT REMAINS, WAS THERE A CLEAR WHAT
THEY SAY QUID PRO QUO? THEY SAY QUID PRO QUO?
>>DOES THAT HAVE TO BE THERE>>DOES THAT HAVE TO BE THERE
FOR THIS TO BOTHER YOU?
T FOR THIS TO BOTHER YOU?
T
WOULD BE OKAY IF THERE WAS NOT WOULD BE OKAY IF THERE WAS NOT
A STRING ATTACHED AND SAYS I A STRING ATTACHED AND SAYS I
WANT YOU TO INVESTIGATE JOE WANT YOU TO INVESTIGATE JOE
BIDEN? BIDEN?
>>THAT IS NOT MY ROLE IN>>THAT IS NOT MY ROLE IN
CONGRESS. CONGRESS.
MY ROLE IN CONGRESS IS, IS IT A MY ROLE IN CONGRESS IS, IS IT A
HIGH CRIME INVESTIGATORS. HIGH CRIME INVESTIGATORS.
THEY WOULD BE 35 IN THE HOUSE THEY WOULD BE 35 IN THE HOUSE
TO MAKE THAT DECISION. TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND SOME MADE THAT DECISION AND SOME MADE THAT DECISION
LONG AGO. LONG AGO.
SOME IN THE MICHIGAN DELEGATION SOME IN THE MICHIGAN DELEGATION
MADE THAT DECISION A LONG TIME MADE THAT DECISION A LONG TIME
AGO. AGO.
AT THIS POINT SOME DECIDED AT THIS POINT SOME DECIDED
THERE WAS NOT. THERE WAS NOT.
BUT I THINK TO DO THAT WITH THE BUT I THINK TO DO THAT WITH THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE AND AMERICAN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE AND
WHY WE HAVE DONE AND NOT JUST WHY WE HAVE DONE AND NOT JUST
AS A POLITICAL HACK JOB, AS A POLITICAL HACK JOB,
IMPEACHMENT IS NOT SOME IMPEACHMENT IS NOT SOME
POLITICAL WEAPON, IT IS POLITICAL WEAPON, IT IS
SOMETHING OF SAFETY WITH THE SOMETHING OF SAFETY WITH THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE YOU HAVE AMERICAN PEOPLE YOU HAVE
SOMEONE IN OFFICE IS WELL SOMEONE IN OFFICE IS WELL
BEYOND WHAT EVERYONE WOULD BEYOND WHAT EVERYONE WOULD
ACCEPT THAT IS A QUESTION WE ACCEPT THAT IS A QUESTION WE
HAVE TO — APPARENTLY WE DO HAVE TO — APPARENTLY WE DO
KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE ON THAT KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE ON THAT
PATH. PATH.
I BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS, AND I BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS, AND
ARTICLES WRITTEN THE ARTICLES WRITTEN THE
IMPEACHMENT IS ON AUTOPILOT IS IMPEACHMENT IS ON AUTOPILOT IS
JUST A MATTER OF WHEN. JUST A MATTER OF WHEN.
I THINK HE’S PROBABLY RIGHT. I THINK HE’S PROBABLY RIGHT.
>>IT IS INTERESTING WATCHING>>IT IS INTERESTING WATCHING
THE DELEGATION. THE DELEGATION.
JUSTIN AMASH LEFT THE PARTY. JUSTIN AMASH LEFT THE PARTY.
WE ALSO HAVE FRANK LIPTON WE ALSO HAVE FRANK LIPTON
SAYING HE THINKS IMPEACHMENT SAYING HE THINKS IMPEACHMENT
INQUIRY WERE LOOKING INTO THESE INQUIRY WERE LOOKING INTO THESE
MATTERS IS AT LEAST MATTERS IS AT LEAST
APPROPRIATE. APPROPRIATE.
BUT I’M CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER BUT I’M CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER
YOU SEE MUCH SHIFT AMONG OTHER YOU SEE MUCH SHIFT AMONG OTHER
REPUBLICANS OR IS EVERYBODY REPUBLICANS OR IS EVERYBODY
STILL VERY MUCH LOCKED INTO STILL VERY MUCH LOCKED INTO
SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT? SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENT?
>>I DON’T KNOW IF IT IS>>I DON’T KNOW IF IT IS
LOCKED-IN, IT IS WAITING TO GET LOCKED-IN, IT IS WAITING TO GET
INFORMATION. INFORMATION.
I THINK MOST OF THE DELEGATION I THINK MOST OF THE DELEGATION
SAYS THE SAME THING WHICH IS, SAYS THE SAME THING WHICH IS,
IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS THEN IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS THEN
LET’S GET ALL OF THE LET’S GET ALL OF THE
INFORMATION.AKING DECISIONS INFORMATION.AKING DECISIONS
ON TRIPS AND GRABS IS A ON TRIPS AND GRABS IS A
TERRIBLE WAY TO MAKE DECISIONS TERRIBLE WAY TO MAKE DECISIONS
THAT IS THIS IMPORTANT. THAT IS THIS IMPORTANT.
THIS HISTORICAL STUFF WE ARE THIS HISTORICAL STUFF WE ARE
TALKING ABOUT. TALKING ABOUT.
>>THE PRESIDENT SAID HE COULD>>THE PRESIDENT SAID HE COULD
SHOOT SOMEONE ON FIFTH AVENUE SHOOT SOMEONE ON FIFTH AVENUE
AND HE WOULD BE FINE. AND HE WOULD BE FINE.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THE
WAY THAT YOU BEEN AN EXCEPTION WAY THAT YOU BEEN AN EXCEPTION
AND YOU HAVE BEEN OCCASIONALLY AND YOU HAVE BEEN OCCASIONALLY
WILLING TO CALL THE PRESIDENT WILLING TO CALL THE PRESIDENT
SOME SAY IS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT SOME SAY IS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT
RUNNING FOR REELECTION. RUNNING FOR REELECTION.
>>I HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.>>I HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.
>>BUT THE PRESIDENT CAN DO>>BUT THE PRESIDENT CAN DO
ABSOLUTELY NO WRONG TO A LOT OF ABSOLUTELY NO WRONG TO A LOT OF
HIS SUPPORTERS AND IT’S HIS SUPPORTERS AND IT’S
INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE I INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE I
DON’T KNOW WE’VE EVER HAD A DON’T KNOW WE’VE EVER HAD A
PRESIDENT THAT CAN NEVER DO ANY PRESIDENT THAT CAN NEVER DO ANY
WRONG. WRONG.
>>I CAN’T SPEAK FOR OTHERS.>>I CAN’T SPEAK FOR OTHERS.
LONG BEFORE I MADE THE DECISION LONG BEFORE I MADE THE DECISION
ABOUT RUNNING OR NOT IN MY ABOUT RUNNING OR NOT IN MY
FIRST TERM I MADE A COMMENT FIRST TERM I MADE A COMMENT
ABOUT THE CHARLOTTESVILLE ABOUT THE CHARLOTTESVILLE
SITUATION. SITUATION.
>>ON THIS PROGRAM.>>ON THIS PROGRAM.
>>I THINK IT PROBABLY WAS.>>I THINK IT PROBABLY WAS.
I THINK I SIMPLY PICK AND I THINK I SIMPLY PICK AND
CHOOSE MY POINTS WERE THINK CHOOSE MY POINTS WERE THINK
SOMETHING IS PARTICULARLY SOMETHING IS PARTICULARLY
EGREGIOUS RATHER THAN SEE IF EGREGIOUS RATHER THAN SEE IF
THERE’S SOMETHING I CAN THERE’S SOMETHING I CAN
CRITICIZE. CRITICIZE.
FOR EXAMPLE, KEVIN McCARTHY, FOR EXAMPLE, KEVIN McCARTHY,
SAID IF WE’RE GOING TO DO SAID IF WE’RE GOING TO DO
IMPEACHMENT PROCESS THEN LET’S IMPEACHMENT PROCESS THEN LET’S
HAVE A PROCESS THAT REALLY HAVE A PROCESS THAT REALLY
PROVIDES BOTH SIDES THE ABILITY PROVIDES BOTH SIDES THE ABILITY
TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND MOVE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND MOVE
FORWARD. FORWARD.
BASED ON HISTORICAL PRECEDENT. BASED ON HISTORICAL PRECEDENT.
SHE BASICALLY SENT BACK A SHE BASICALLY SENT BACK A
LETTER THAT SAID GO POUND SAND. LETTER THAT SAID GO POUND SAND.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO SAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO SAY
WE ARE HANDLING THIS IN A WE ARE HANDLING THIS IN A
RESPONSIBLE MANNER.
IGHT NOW RESPONSIBLE MANNER.
IGHT NOW
PWE ARE REALLY NOT AND IT IS PWE ARE REALLY NOT AND IT IS
TROUBLING TO ME. TROUBLING TO ME.
>>SHOULD POLITICAL>>SHOULD POLITICAL
CALCULATIONS ENTER INTO THIS CALCULATIONS ENTER INTO THIS
THOUGH? THOUGH?
IF — IT IS TROUBLING I THINK IF — IT IS TROUBLING I THINK
TOO MANY, TO THOSE WHO ARE TOO MANY, TO THOSE WHO ARE
WATCHING PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS WATCHING PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS
ABOUT IMPEACHMENT AS TO HOW ABOUT IMPEACHMENT AS TO HOW
REGARDS OR WILL REFLECT AND REGARDS OR WILL REFLECT AND
IMPROVE OR DISCOURAGE ALL IMPROVE OR DISCOURAGE ALL
POLITICAL CHANCES, WHAT IT POLITICAL CHANCES, WHAT IT
MEANS FOR THE PRESIDENTS MEANS FOR THE PRESIDENTS
CHANCES TO STAY IN OFFICE. CHANCES TO STAY IN OFFICE.
THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO SAY THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO SAY
WHETHER SOMEONE SHOULD BE OUT WHETHER SOMEONE SHOULD BE OUT
OF OFFICE OR NOT. OF OFFICE OR NOT.
>>THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE>>THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE
TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, A TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, A
PROBLEM IN WASHINGTON IS, THE PROBLEM IN WASHINGTON IS, THE
POLITICAL CALCULATION, STEP TWO POLITICAL CALCULATION, STEP TWO
IS WHAT ARE THE TALKING POINTS IS WHAT ARE THE TALKING POINTS
AND STEP THREE IS HOW DO I AND STEP THREE IS HOW DO I
RAISE MONEY. RAISE MONEY.
REALITY IS, NO, IT SHOULD NOT REALITY IS, NO, IT SHOULD NOT
BE. BE.
I’VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH A I’VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH A
VARIETY OF PEOPLE ON THIS TOPIC VARIETY OF PEOPLE ON THIS TOPIC
AND I BELIEVE WE SIMPLY HAVE TO AND I BELIEVE WE SIMPLY HAVE TO
DECIDE WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS. DECIDE WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS.
EACH INDIVIDUAL , WHAT IS EACH INDIVIDUAL , WHAT IS
BENEATH THE PRESIDENCY THAT BENEATH THE PRESIDENCY THAT
AFFECTS SOMEONE THAT DESERVE TO AFFECTS SOMEONE THAT DESERVE TO
BE THERE? BE THERE?
THAT IS A CRITERION THAT THAT IS A CRITERION THAT
WHETHER OR NOT IT IS WHETHER OR NOT IT IS
POLITICALLY ADVANTAGEOUS. POLITICALLY ADVANTAGEOUS.
>>ONE THING THAT SHOCKED ME IS>>ONE THING THAT SHOCKED ME IS
MORE THE PRESIDENT’S SUPPORT IS MORE THE PRESIDENT’S SUPPORT IS
WILLING TO CALL HIM OUT FOR WILLING TO CALL HIM OUT FOR
TRASHING THE WHISTLEBLOWER AND TRASHING THE WHISTLEBLOWER AND
DESCRIBING THE WHISTLEBLOWER AS DESCRIBING THE WHISTLEBLOWER AS
A TRAITOR AND SAYING WE USED TO A TRAITOR AND SAYING WE USED TO
DO WITH THESE KIND OF PEOPLE IN DO WITH THESE KIND OF PEOPLE IN
A DIFFERENT WAY. A DIFFERENT WAY.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT
WHISTLEBLOWER LAWS WERE WHISTLEBLOWER LAWS WERE
WRITTEN. WRITTEN.
TO PROTECT PEOPLE .
>SENATOR TO PROTECT PEOPLE .
>SENATOR
GRASSLEY AND SOME OTHERS CAME GRASSLEY AND SOME OTHERS CAME
OUT AND SAID NO, THIS IS OUT AND SAID NO, THIS IS
EXACTLY WHY THE LAWS WERE PUT EXACTLY WHY THE LAWS WERE PUT
IN PLACE AND I BELIEVE YOU NEED IN PLACE AND I BELIEVE YOU NEED
TO PROTECT THE WHISTLEBLOWER TO PROTECT THE WHISTLEBLOWER
WHETHER YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT. WHETHER YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT.
AND WHOEVER IT IS DETERMINED TO AND WHOEVER IT IS DETERMINED TO
BE WHETHER IT IS POLITICAL BE WHETHER IT IS POLITICAL
GAMES OR NOT. GAMES OR NOT.
WITHOUT THE LAWS WE HAVE A WITHOUT THE LAWS WE HAVE A
DIFFICULT TIME PROTECTING OUR DIFFICULT TIME PROTECTING OUR
NATION. NATION.
DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION. DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION.
PEOPLE NEED THE ABILITY TO PEOPLE NEED THE ABILITY TO
SPEAK UP AND THEN MAKE A SPEAK UP AND THEN MAKE A
DETERMINATION IF THEY ARE DETERMINATION IF THEY ARE
PLAYING GAMES AND APPEARED PLAYING GAMES AND APPEARED
OTHERWISE IS SIMPLY NOT HELPFUL OTHERWISE IS SIMPLY NOT HELPFUL
TO THE NATION. TO THE NATION.
>>IF YOU HAVE TO GUESS WHERE>>IF YOU HAVE TO GUESS WHERE
DO YOU THINK THIS IS HEADED? DO YOU THINK THIS IS HEADED?
WILL WE HAVE AN IMPEACHMENT WILL WE HAVE AN IMPEACHMENT
VOTE? VOTE?
>>I THINK IF THERE’S ANY WAY>>I THINK IF THERE’S ANY WAY
NANCY PELOSI CAN AVOID THE NANCY PELOSI CAN AVOID THE
IMPEACHMENT VOTE, I THINK WE IMPEACHMENT VOTE, I THINK WE
WILL HAVE ONE IN THE HOUSE. WILL HAVE ONE IN THE HOUSE.
IF I WAS BETTING THERE WILL BE IF I WAS BETTING THERE WILL BE
A VOTE BEFORE THE HOLIDAY I A VOTE BEFORE THE HOLIDAY I
THINK IT WILL HAPPEN. THINK IT WILL HAPPEN.
LET’S DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING LET’S DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING
LET’S MAKE SURE THE MEMBERS AND LET’S MAKE SURE THE MEMBERS AND
AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE ALL THE
INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY NEED INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY NEED
TO SEE US OPERATING WITH THE TO SEE US OPERATING WITH THE
BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTRY AT BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTRY AT
HEART AND NOT POLITICAL HEART AND NOT POLITICAL
OPPORTUNISTS. OPPORTUNISTS.
>>CONGRESSMAN MITCHELL, ALWAYS>>CONGRESSMAN MITCHELL, ALWAYS
GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON THE PROGRAM GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON THE PROGRAM
. .
>>THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU.
>>WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH>>WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH
“FLASHPOINT”.>>WELCOME BACK.>>WELCOME BACK.
LET’S STAY WITH A WEEK IN LET’S STAY WITH A WEEK IN
WASHINGTON BUT ALSO LEFT AND WASHINGTON BUT ALSO LEFT AND
THE WEEK IN LANSING. THE WEEK IN LANSING.
LIST TALK TO STEPHEN HENDERSON LIST TALK TO STEPHEN HENDERSON
WITH DETROIT TODAY AND RANDY — WITH DETROIT TODAY AND RANDY —
RANDY, YOU’VE BEEN AN ARDENT RANDY, YOU’VE BEEN AN ARDENT
SUPPORTER OF THIS PRESIDENT. SUPPORTER OF THIS PRESIDENT.
HAS ANYTHING CHANGED IN THE HAS ANYTHING CHANGED IN THE
PAST WEEK WHEN YOU HEAR HIM PAST WEEK WHEN YOU HEAR HIM
ASKING FOR CHINA’S HELP? ASKING FOR CHINA’S HELP?
>>NO, HE IS A LIGHTNING ROD OF>>NO, HE IS A LIGHTNING ROD OF
PERSONALITY.HE LIKES TO BRING PERSONALITY.HE LIKES TO BRING
THE ARGUMENT TO HIS COURT AND THE ARGUMENT TO HIS COURT AND
THEN HE FIGHTS IT. THEN HE FIGHTS IT.
HE USUALLY DOES IT PRETTY WELL HE USUALLY DOES IT PRETTY WELL
IT’S AN INTERESTING TACTIC.
>>IT’S AN INTERESTING TACTIC.
>>
HE IS ABOUT TO BE IMPEACHED! HE IS ABOUT TO BE IMPEACHED!
>>HE IS NOT ABOUT TO BE>>HE IS NOT ABOUT TO BE
IMPEACHED. IMPEACHED.
>>HE WILL BE IMPEACHED I DO>>HE WILL BE IMPEACHED I DO
NOT KNOW BUT REMOVED FROM NOT KNOW BUT REMOVED FROM
OFFICE. OFFICE.
>>WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR ANYONE>>WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR ANYONE
? ?
IS JUST A WASTE OF TIME AND IS JUST A WASTE OF TIME AND
TAXPAYER DOLLARS. TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
IMPEACHED FOR WHAT?
ECAUSE IMPEACHED FOR WHAT?
ECAUSE
THE ECONOMY IS DOING SO WELL THE ECONOMY IS DOING SO WELL
AND JOBLESSNESS HAS CHANGED? AND JOBLESSNESS HAS CHANGED?
WHERE DO A GREAT JOB IN THE WHERE DO A GREAT JOB IN THE
COUNTRY IS IN GREAT SHAPE. COUNTRY IS IN GREAT SHAPE.
>>STEPHEN, TO THE POINT, THE>>STEPHEN, TO THE POINT, THE
SAYING IS WE RECALL ELECTIONS SAYING IS WE RECALL ELECTIONS
EVERY FOUR YEARS. EVERY FOUR YEARS.
>>SISTER WITH THE>>SISTER WITH THE
CONSTITUTION, THE OATH OF CONSTITUTION, THE OATH OF
OFFICE THAT THE PRESIDENT TOOK OFFICE THAT THE PRESIDENT TOOK
TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.
LET’S START WITH LET’S START WITH
CAMPAIGN-FINANCE LAW WHICH HE CAMPAIGN-FINANCE LAW WHICH HE
HAS OPENLY VIOLATED AND WAS ON HAS OPENLY VIOLATED AND WAS ON
THE PHONE CALL AND WAS ON THE PHONE CALL AND WAS ON
TELEVISION. TELEVISION.
THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT
PRESERVE THE INSTITUTIONS IN PRESERVE THE INSTITUTIONS IN
OUR REPUBLIC AND HAVE FOR THE OUR REPUBLIC AND HAVE FOR THE
ENTIRE TIME IT HAS EXISTED. ENTIRE TIME IT HAS EXISTED.
THIS IS A PRESIDENT, A WITH THIS IS A PRESIDENT, A WITH
RANDY, HE IS SOMETIMES TRYING RANDY, HE IS SOMETIMES TRYING
TO TWEAK THE OPPOSITION BY TO TWEAK THE OPPOSITION BY
FLOUTING THE STANDARDS AND FLOUTING THE STANDARDS AND
SAYING IT DOESN’T MATTER MUCH SAYING IT DOESN’T MATTER MUCH
BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF THE COUNTRY, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF THE COUNTRY,
THE CHIEF DIPLOMAT OF THIS THE CHIEF DIPLOMAT OF THIS
COUNTRY. COUNTRY.
HE IS ALSO THE HEAD OF THE HE IS ALSO THE HEAD OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THOSE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THOSE
THREE THINGS HAVE TO BE KEPT THREE THINGS HAVE TO BE KEPT
SEPARATE IN THE MIND OF THE SEPARATE IN THE MIND OF THE
PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT.
YOU DO NOT ALWAYS GET TO DO ALL YOU DO NOT ALWAYS GET TO DO ALL
OF THOSE THINGS. OF THOSE THINGS.
HE IS ACTING AS A PARTISAN IN HE IS ACTING AS A PARTISAN IN
THESE OTHER ROLES IN A WAY THESE OTHER ROLES IN A WAY
WE’VE NEVER SEEN A PRESIDENT DO WE’VE NEVER SEEN A PRESIDENT DO
BEFORE. BEFORE.
THAT’S WHY THEY’RE TALKING THAT’S WHY THEY’RE TALKING
ABOUT IMPEACHMENT. ABOUT IMPEACHMENT.
IF HE WERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC IF HE WERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC
SERVANT, HE COULD BE PROSECUTED SERVANT, HE COULD BE PROSECUTED
FOR CAMPAIGN-FINANCE VIOLATIONS FOR CAMPAIGN-FINANCE VIOLATIONS
FOR THIS KIND OF THING. FOR THIS KIND OF THING.
>>JUMP AND I WILL SIT BACK AND>>JUMP AND I WILL SIT BACK AND
LET YOU TO GO AT IT. LET YOU TO GO AT IT.
>>I JUST THINK WE ARE GOING A>>I JUST THINK WE ARE GOING A
LITTLE TOO FAR. LITTLE TOO FAR.
AS A PERSON IN A LEADERSHIP AS A PERSON IN A LEADERSHIP
ROLE MYSELF, HAD PEOPLE, AT A ROLE MYSELF, HAD PEOPLE, AT A
RECALL COMING AFTER ME MORE RECALL COMING AFTER ME MORE
THAN ONCE. THAN ONCE.
THEY START A WEBSITE AGAINST THEY START A WEBSITE AGAINST
ME.
I THINK THEY GOT 13 ME.
I THINK THEY GOT 13
MEMBERS TO JOIN THE WEBSITE AND MEMBERS TO JOIN THE WEBSITE AND
A COUPLE HUNDRED VOTES OR A COUPLE HUNDRED VOTES OR
SIGNATURES TO TRAIN RECALL ME. SIGNATURES TO TRAIN RECALL ME.
T IS JUST A WASTE OF TIME, T IS JUST A WASTE OF TIME,
JUST BOTHERSOME MORE THAN JUST BOTHERSOME MORE THAN
ANYTHING ELSE. DON’T THINK ANYTHING ELSE. DON’T THINK
IT IS GENUINE THAT THERE IS IT IS GENUINE THAT THERE IS
GENUINE SERIOUSNESS TO THE GENUINE SERIOUSNESS TO THE
DEGREE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. DEGREE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>>BECAUSE WHY?>>BECAUSE WHY?
>>BECAUSE NOT THAT IMPORTANT.>>BECAUSE NOT THAT IMPORTANT.
WE ARE MOVING ALONG, EVERYTHING WE ARE MOVING ALONG, EVERYTHING
IS GOING WELL AND I DON’T EVEN IS GOING WELL AND I DON’T EVEN
KNOW THAT IT IS TRUE. KNOW THAT IT IS TRUE.
>>THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY>>THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
WILL SEE THE BIGGEST THREAT WE WILL SEE THE BIGGEST THREAT WE
FACE RIGHT NOW IS INTERFERENCE FACE RIGHT NOW IS INTERFERENCE
IN OUR ELECTIONS BY FOREIGN IN OUR ELECTIONS BY FOREIGN
GOVERNMENTS. GOVERNMENTS.
YOU HAD SEVERAL INTELLIGENCE YOU HAD SEVERAL INTELLIGENCE
OFFICIALS TALK ABOUT THAT IN OFFICIALS TALK ABOUT THAT IN
RECENT MONTHS. RECENT MONTHS.
THE PRESIDENT MEANWHILE IS ON THE PRESIDENT MEANWHILE IS ON
THE PHONE WITH A FOREIGN THE PHONE WITH A FOREIGN
LEADER, SAYING HEY, I NEED LEADER, SAYING HEY, I NEED
YOUR HELP IN DOMESTIC POLITICS YOUR HELP IN DOMESTIC POLITICS
IN MY COUNTRY. IN MY COUNTRY.
I NEED YOU TO INVESTIGATE MY I NEED YOU TO INVESTIGATE MY
CHIEF POLITICAL RIVAL. CHIEF POLITICAL RIVAL.
I DON’T KNOW WHICH PART OF THAT I DON’T KNOW WHICH PART OF THAT
FOR YOU, DOESN’T RISE TO THE FOR YOU, DOESN’T RISE TO THE
ABSOLUTE LEVEL OF HORROR AND ABSOLUTE LEVEL OF HORROR AND
OUTRAGE.>SEEMS TO ME, OUTRAGE.>SEEMS TO ME,
DAMNED IF YOU DO AND DAMNED IF DAMNED IF YOU DO AND DAMNED IF
YOU DON’T. YOU DON’T.
SUPPOSEDLY RUSH INVOLVED IN SUPPOSEDLY RUSH INVOLVED IN
PEOPLE SAY THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN. PEOPLE SAY THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
>>EVERYONE WAS INVOLVED IN>>EVERYONE WAS INVOLVED IN
THAT. THAT.
>>I DON’T THINK SO.>>I DON’T THINK SO.
>>THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY>>THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
BACK THAT UP BY SAYING THERE’S BACK THAT UP BY SAYING THERE’S
AN EFFORT — AN EFFORT —
>>DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT>>DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT
THIS IS AN EFFICIENT USE OF THIS IS AN EFFICIENT USE OF
TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO SAY WE’VE TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO SAY WE’VE
GOT THESE TRUMPED UP CHARGES GOT THESE TRUMPED UP CHARGES
AGAINST THE PRESIDENT TALKING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT TALKING
ABOUT — ABOUT —
>>HOW ARE THEY TRUMPED UP ?>>HOW ARE THEY TRUMPED UP ?
>>BECAUSE YOU CAN VOTE HIM OUT>>BECAUSE YOU CAN VOTE HIM OUT
OF OFFICE IN A COUPLE MONTHS. OF OFFICE IN A COUPLE MONTHS.
SO GO AHEAD AND VOTE HIM OUT OF SO GO AHEAD AND VOTE HIM OUT OF
OFFICE? OFFICE?
>>WHAT IS NOT PROVEN?>>WHAT IS NOT PROVEN?
>>THE GENERAL PEOPLE IN THE>>THE GENERAL PEOPLE IN THE
NURSES DON’T CARE ABOUT THIS NURSES DON’T CARE ABOUT THIS
STUFF. STUFF.
THEY WANT TO GET BACK TO THE THEY WANT TO GET BACK TO THE
BUSINESS OF THE COUNTRY RUNNING BUSINESS OF THE COUNTRY RUNNING
THE WAY IT HAS BEEN THE LAST THE WAY IT HAS BEEN THE LAST
COUPLE OF YEARS. COUPLE OF YEARS.
>>MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WANT>>MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WANT
TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE. TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
MAJORITY BELIEVE HE WAS TRYING MAJORITY BELIEVE HE WAS TRYING
TO REACH OUT TO THE UKRAINE TO TO REACH OUT TO THE UKRAINE TO
INTERFERE IN OUR ELECTIONS. INTERFERE IN OUR ELECTIONS.
THEY’RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THEY’RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
WE CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE WE CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE
SAME TIME, PRESERVING THE SAME TIME, PRESERVING THE
STANDARDS OF THE INSTITUTIONS STANDARDS OF THE INSTITUTIONS
OF THE REPUBLIC ARE JUST AS OF THE REPUBLIC ARE JUST AS
IMPORTANT AS WHAT THE ECONOMY IMPORTANT AS WHAT THE ECONOMY
IS DOING. IS DOING.
JUST AS IMPORTANT AS REFORMING JUST AS IMPORTANT AS REFORMING
HEALTHCARE OR GUN REFORM. HEALTHCARE OR GUN REFORM.
>>SURE THEY ARE BUT I’M SAYING>>SURE THEY ARE BUT I’M SAYING
THE TIMING, YOU’VE HAD THREE THE TIMING, YOU’VE HAD THREE
YEARS TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE YEARS TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE
THINGS HAPPENING AND ALL THE THINGS HAPPENING AND ALL THE
CHARGES THIS TIME RIGHT NOW CHARGES THIS TIME RIGHT NOW
JUST ABOUT ONE YEAR BEFORE THE JUST ABOUT ONE YEAR BEFORE THE
ELECTION. ELECTION.
BY THE WAY, LET’S START DOING BY THE WAY, LET’S START DOING
THIS. THIS.
>>HE JUST MADE THIS FILM CALL>>HE JUST MADE THIS FILM CALL
IN JUNE. IN JUNE.
>>SO THE PROCESSING THING IS>>SO THE PROCESSING THING IS
SO IMPORTANT, TAKES FOUR MONTHS SO IMPORTANT, TAKES FOUR MONTHS
TO START ACTING? TO START ACTING?
>>WE JUST LEARNED ABOUT THE>>WE JUST LEARNED ABOUT THE
PHONE CALL AND NOW WE LEARN PHONE CALL AND NOW WE LEARN
ABOUT OTHER PHONE CALLS. ABOUT OTHER PHONE CALLS.
HE WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE HE WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE
LEADER OF CHINA MAY BE SAYING LEADER OF CHINA MAY BE SAYING
THE SAME THING. THE SAME THING.
AT WHAT POINT DO REPUBLICANS — AT WHAT POINT DO REPUBLICANS —
AND LISTEN, I WAS SOMEBODY WHO AND LISTEN, I WAS SOMEBODY WHO
ON THE LEFT SIDE HAS HAD IN ON THE LEFT SIDE HAS HAD IN
MANY TIME, MANY INSTANCES, TO MANY TIME, MANY INSTANCES, TO
HAVE TO STAND AGAINST SOMEONE I HAVE TO STAND AGAINST SOMEONE I
LIKE, RESPECT AND SAY, YOU HAVE LIKE, RESPECT AND SAY, YOU HAVE
DONE WRONG. DONE WRONG.
SOMEONE I KNEW MOST OF MY LIFE, SOMEONE I KNEW MOST OF MY LIFE,
I HAD TO — WHEN HE CLEARLY I HAD TO — WHEN HE CLEARLY
CROSSED THE LINE IN HIS CROSSED THE LINE IN HIS
BEHAVIOR HAD TO SAY THIS IS NOT BEHAVIOR HAD TO SAY THIS IS NOT
OKAY AND YOU CANNOT CONTINUE IN OKAY AND YOU CANNOT CONTINUE IN
THE JOB THAT YOU HAVE HAD THE JOB THAT YOU HAVE HAD
BECAUSE OF THAT. BECAUSE OF THAT.
THAT IS WHAT LEADERSHIP IS THAT IS WHAT LEADERSHIP IS
ABOUT, THAT IS WHAT CHARACTER ABOUT, THAT IS WHAT CHARACTER
AND MORALS ARE ABOUT. AND MORALS ARE ABOUT.
I’M REALLY UPSET THE I’M REALLY UPSET THE
REPUBLICANS ON THE OTHER SIDE REPUBLICANS ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE AISLE, CANNOT DO THE OF THE AISLE, CANNOT DO THE
SAME THING. SAME THING.
WITH SOMEONE WHO IS SO — WITH SOMEONE WHO IS SO —
>>QUICKLY, COMPARING THE>>QUICKLY, COMPARING THE
PRESIDENT TO KILPATRICK IS NOT PRESIDENT TO KILPATRICK IS NOT
FAIR. FAIR.
>>I THINK IT’S AN INSULT TO>>I THINK IT’S AN INSULT TO
KILPATRICK. KILPATRICK.
>>YOU KNOW GRETCHEN WITMER>>YOU KNOW GRETCHEN WITMER
WELL. WELL.
SHE WAS A COUNTERPART ON THE SHE WAS A COUNTERPART ON THE
MINORITY SIDE OF THE SENATE. MINORITY SIDE OF THE SENATE.
LMOST $1 BILLION IN LINE ITEM LMOST $1 BILLION IN LINE ITEM
VETOES. VETOES.
AND SOME OF THEM ON SOME AND SOME OF THEM ON SOME
GLARING THINGS LIKE SOME PEOPLE GLARING THINGS LIKE SOME PEOPLE
ARE BEHIND LIKE PURE MICHIGAN, ARE BEHIND LIKE PURE MICHIGAN,
AUTISM, RESEARCH AND FUNDING, AUTISM, RESEARCH AND FUNDING,
WHAT IS SHE UP TO? WHAT IS SHE UP TO?
>>IT IS A TACTIC.>>IT IS A TACTIC.
A WAY THAT SHE GOES ABOUT A WAY THAT SHE GOES ABOUT
THINGS. THINGS.
NEGOTIATED PUBLICLY AND NEGOTIATED PUBLICLY AND
PRIVATELY. PRIVATELY.
I THINK SHE’S A BETTER PRIVATE I THINK SHE’S A BETTER PRIVATE
NEGOTIATOR THAN SHE IS PUBLIC. NEGOTIATOR THAN SHE IS PUBLIC.
SHE IS SAYING YOU WANT TO CROSS SHE IS SAYING YOU WANT TO CROSS
THE STREET THEN YOU MIGHT GET THE STREET THEN YOU MIGHT GET
HIT BY A BUS. HIT BY A BUS.
NEVER MIND. NEVER MIND.
>>WE’VE SEEN THIS BEFORE IN>>WE’VE SEEN THIS BEFORE IN
LANSING AND HIS NAME IS JOHN LANSING AND HIS NAME IS JOHN
ENGLER. ENGLER.
THIS IDEA THAT IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS IDEA THAT IF YOU DO NOT DO
WHAT I NEED YOU TO DO THERE WHAT I NEED YOU TO DO THERE
WILL BE CONSEQUENCES AND THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES AND THERE
WILL BE PERSONAL. WILL BE PERSONAL.
IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THEY HAD IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THEY HAD
MEMBERS OF THE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE REPUBLICAN
CAUCUS, THAT’S WHAT SHE’S UP CAUCUS, THAT’S WHAT SHE’S UP
TO. TO.
AND LOOK, I CANNOT SAY IT IS A AND LOOK, I CANNOT SAY IT IS A
FAULTY APPROACH. FAULTY APPROACH.
>>I HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK.>>I HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK.
IF YOU TWO WANT TO GO TO IF YOU TWO WANT TO GO TO
BREAKFAST OR BREAKFAST IT IS ON BREAKFAST OR BREAKFAST IT IS ON
ME! ME!
THIS IS “FLASHPOINT”. THIS IS “FLASHPOINT”.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE FREEDOM WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE FREEDOM
OF INFORMATION ACT IN MICHIGAN OF INFORMATION ACT IN MICHIGAN
WHEN WE COME BACK. TOOK HER MUG SAILIy while protecting
the environment, DTE Energy has
something to say. We‘re already doing it. Because DTE is on pace
to reduce carbon emissions by more than 80%. We‘re adding billions of
dollars to Michigan‘s economy and providing
thousands of jobs. Because you don‘t
get to the forefront of cleaner, efficient energy by talking about it. You get there by doing it. DTE Energy.>>NEXT TO THE THEY WILL A FOIA>>NEXT TO THE THEY WILL A FOIA
FESTIVAL. FESTIVAL.
IF THAT SOUNDS LESS EXCITING IF THAT SOUNDS LESS EXCITING
THAN COACHELLA ANNISTON BUT FOR THAN COACHELLA ANNISTON BUT FOR
MICHIGAN JOURNALISTS IT’S A MICHIGAN JOURNALISTS IT’S A
TERRIBLY IMPORTANT MATTER TERRIBLY IMPORTANT MATTER
PERMISSION IS OFTEN RIGHT IS PERMISSION IS OFTEN RIGHT IS
THE WORST STATE IN THE COUNTRY THE WORST STATE IN THE COUNTRY
WHEN IT COMES TO GOVERNMENT WHEN IT COMES TO GOVERNMENT
TRANSPARENCY. TRANSPARENCY.
WE THE ONLY STATE THAT EXEMPTS WE THE ONLY STATE THAT EXEMPTS
THE GOVERNORS OFFICE AND STATE THE GOVERNORS OFFICE AND STATE
LEGISLATURE FROM THE FREEDOM OF LEGISLATURE FROM THE FREEDOM OF
INFORMATION ACT. INFORMATION ACT.
LET’S TALK ABOUT WITH KAT LET’S TALK ABOUT WITH KAT
STAFFORD GOVERNMENT REPORT FROM STAFFORD GOVERNMENT REPORT FROM
DETROIT FREE PRESS AND ALSO — DETROIT FREE PRESS AND ALSO —
DETROIT BUSINESS. DETROIT BUSINESS.
I KNOW SOME PEOPLE SAY DOESN’T I KNOW SOME PEOPLE SAY DOESN’T
MATTER TO MEET ONLY MANAGED TO MATTER TO MEET ONLY MANAGED TO
REPORTERS. REPORTERS.
ANYONE CAN USE FOIA. ANYONE CAN USE FOIA.
IT MATTERS TO ALL OF US DOESN’T IT MATTERS TO ALL OF US DOESN’T
IT? IT?
>>YES, THE FOIA IS NOT JUST>>YES, THE FOIA IS NOT JUST
FOR JOURNALISTS AND LAWYERS IS FOR JOURNALISTS AND LAWYERS IS
ALSO FOR CITIZENS. ALSO FOR CITIZENS.
CITIZENS REGULARLY FILE FOIA CITIZENS REGULARLY FILE FOIA
REQUESTS. REQUESTS.
THEY TRIED TO GET INFORMATION THEY TRIED TO GET INFORMATION
AND THE GOAL WAS TO SHOW AND THE GOAL WAS TO SHOW
RESIDENTS HOW YOU CAN USE THIS, RESIDENTS HOW YOU CAN USE THIS,
HEIGHT CAN BE BETTER EQUIPPED HEIGHT CAN BE BETTER EQUIPPED
JESUS FOR YOURSELF.
O WE’RE JESUS FOR YOURSELF.
O WE’RE
GOING TO HAVE A DAY OF EVENTS GOING TO HAVE A DAY OF EVENTS
FOR RESIDENTS, JOURNALISTS, SO FOR RESIDENTS, JOURNALISTS, SO
THEY CAN LEARN THE BASICS OF THEY CAN LEARN THE BASICS OF
THE FOIA AND HOW TO USE IT THE FOIA AND HOW TO USE IT
BETTER. BETTER.
>>WHAT KIND OF THINGS THOSE A>>WHAT KIND OF THINGS THOSE A
CITIZEN NEED TO KNOW? CITIZEN NEED TO KNOW?
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
>>AS REPORTER I GET A A LOT OF>>AS REPORTER I GET A A LOT OF
QUESTIONS FROM READERS THAT SAY QUESTIONS FROM READERS THAT SAY
HOW CAN I USE FOIA. HOW CAN I USE FOIA.
YOU ALWAYS USE A SO HOW CAN I YOU ALWAYS USE A SO HOW CAN I
DO IT? DO IT?
I HAVE HELPED PEOPLE GET FOIA I HAVE HELPED PEOPLE GET FOIA
REQUEST FOR THINGS RELATED TO REQUEST FOR THINGS RELATED TO
WATER DEPARTMENT ISSUES. WATER DEPARTMENT ISSUES.
ONE OF THE GREATEST ISSUES IN ONE OF THE GREATEST ISSUES IN
THE CITY IS WATER SHUT OFF SO A THE CITY IS WATER SHUT OFF SO A
LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING
FOR INFORMATION AROUND THAT. FOR INFORMATION AROUND THAT.
WE’RE GOING TO HAVE ONE PANEL WE’RE GOING TO HAVE ONE PANEL
THAT SPECIFICALLY DEALS WITH THAT SPECIFICALLY DEALS WITH
RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL
FILING THESE REQUESTS. FILING THESE REQUESTS.
>>MICHIGAN IS UNIQUE AND HOW>>MICHIGAN IS UNIQUE AND HOW
FAR THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION FAR THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
LAWS GO. LAWS GO.
THEY DON’T GET YOU VERY FAR THEY DON’T GET YOU VERY FAR
AROUND LANSING. AROUND LANSING.
>>THEY DON’T.>>THEY DON’T.
WE RESTRAINED INFORMATION YOU WE RESTRAINED INFORMATION YOU
CAN FILE A FOIA REQUEST WITH CAN FILE A FOIA REQUEST WITH
DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY OR TRANSPORTATION QUALITY OR TRANSPORTATION
DEPARTMENT. DEPARTMENT.
AND YOU CAN GET EMAILS THAT AND YOU CAN GET EMAILS THAT
THOSE BUREAUCRATS SEND TO THE THOSE BUREAUCRATS SEND TO THE
GOVERNORS OFFICE, THAT IS THE GOVERNORS OFFICE, THAT IS THE
ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET EMAILS ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET EMAILS
RELATED TO THINGS THAT THE RELATED TO THINGS THAT THE
GOVERNORS OFFICE ASCENDED GOVERNORS OFFICE ASCENDED
BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SEND THE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SEND THE
SAME REQUEST TO THE GOVERNORS SAME REQUEST TO THE GOVERNORS
OFFICE OR TO LEGISLATURE SO WE OFFICE OR TO LEGISLATURE SO WE
HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE
CONSTITUENTS AND LET US CONSTITUENTS AND LET US
SOMETIMES THE GUYS AND THE SOMETIMES THE GUYS AND THE
SHIELD HERE THAT INSTITUTES ARE SHIELD HERE THAT INSTITUTES ARE
SENDING EMAIL TO LAWMAKERS WITH SENDING EMAIL TO LAWMAKERS WITH
THEIR ISSUES BUT REALITY IS THEIR ISSUES BUT REALITY IS
THOSE CONSTITUENTS ALSO ARE THOSE CONSTITUENTS ALSO ARE
LOBBYISTS OR SPECIAL INTERESTS, LOBBYISTS OR SPECIAL INTERESTS,
CORPORATIONS WHO BASICALLY MAKE CORPORATIONS WHO BASICALLY MAKE
THEIR VOICE BE HEARD TO THE THEIR VOICE BE HEARD TO THE
LAWMAKER AND SOMETIMES THERE LAWMAKER AND SOMETIMES THERE
ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO ALSO WRITE ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO ALSO WRITE
CHECKS TO THEIR CAMPAIGNS.
E CHECKS TO THEIR CAMPAIGNS.
E
DO HAVE ANY WAY TO FIND THE DO HAVE ANY WAY TO FIND THE
INFORMATION OUT. INFORMATION OUT.
VERY RARELY DO WE GET A REAL VERY RARELY DO WE GET A REAL
GOOD SCOPE AND LOOK INSIDE THE GOOD SCOPE AND LOOK INSIDE THE
EMAIL ACTIVITY IN THE EMAIL ACTIVITY IN THE
LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNORS LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNORS
OFFICE. OFFICE.
>>WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF A>>WHAT IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF A
CHANGE ON THAT FRONT? CHANGE ON THAT FRONT?
IT IS A CONSTITUENCY. IT IS A CONSTITUENCY.
I DON’T HOW TO TAKE THE THREE I DON’T HOW TO TAKE THE THREE
OF US ARE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE OF US ARE VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE
DO BUT IT IS A PROFESSION UNDER DO BUT IT IS A PROFESSION UNDER
ASSAULT RIGHT NOW. ASSAULT RIGHT NOW.
>>THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE>>THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE
INTRODUCES BILLS ON BOTH SIDES INTRODUCES BILLS ON BOTH SIDES
OF THE AISLE EVERY YEAR. OF THE AISLE EVERY YEAR.
USUALLY JUST TWO OR THREE USUALLY JUST TWO OR THREE
PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES THAT ARE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES THAT ARE
ADVOCATES. ADVOCATES.
LEADERSHIP BASICALLY HASN’T LEADERSHIP BASICALLY HASN’T
TAKEN US UP OR IF THEY DO THEY TAKEN US UP OR IF THEY DO THEY
START PASSING A BILL THAT HAS A START PASSING A BILL THAT HAS A
LOT OF CARVEOUTS. LOT OF CARVEOUTS.
LAST YEAR THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT LAST YEAR THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT
IT WOULD BE LEGISLATIVE OPEN IT WOULD BE LEGISLATIVE OPEN
RECORDS LAW AND IT HAD ALL RECORDS LAW AND IT HAD ALL
KINDS OF CARVEOUTS. KINDS OF CARVEOUTS.
BASICALLY THEY WERE LETTING ANY BASICALLY THEY WERE LETTING ANY
KIND OF CONSTITUENT EMAIL BE KIND OF CONSTITUENT EMAIL BE
SHIELDED AND THERE WAS REALLY SHIELDED AND THERE WAS REALLY
NOT A REALLY GOOD DEFINITION NOT A REALLY GOOD DEFINITION
FOR WHAT A CONSTITUENT IS. FOR WHAT A CONSTITUENT IS.
>>CAT, AS A GOVERNMENT>>CAT, AS A GOVERNMENT
REPORTER HOW OFTEN HE REPORTER HOW OFTEN HE
FRUSTRATED OR FOILED BY THE FRUSTRATED OR FOILED BY THE
LAWS ARE REPORTED IN THE STATE? LAWS ARE REPORTED IN THE STATE?
>>QUITE OFTEN.>>QUITE OFTEN.
MATTER FACT WE JUST HAD A STORY MATTER FACT WE JUST HAD A STORY
WHERE WE FILED A FOIA REQUEST WHERE WE FILED A FOIA REQUEST
WITH THE CITY OF DETROIT WERE WITH THE CITY OF DETROIT WERE
HIT WITH A $225,000 BILL. HIT WITH A $225,000 BILL.
AND THIS AGAIN — AND THIS AGAIN —
>>225,000 — 1/4 OF $1>>225,000 — 1/4 OF $1
MILLION! MILLION!
>>YES AND WE SEE THAT WE ARE>>YES AND WE SEE THAT WE ARE
OUTRAGED JOURNALISTS BUT FOR OUTRAGED JOURNALISTS BUT FOR
RESIDENTS, THEY SHOULD BE RESIDENTS, THEY SHOULD BE
CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS
PREVENTING THEM FROM GETING PREVENTING THEM FROM GETING
PUBLIC RECORDS THAT ARE THERE PUBLIC RECORDS THAT ARE THERE
RIGHT. RIGHT.
THAT IS WHY WE DECIDED TO HAVE THAT IS WHY WE DECIDED TO HAVE
THIS EVENT TO SHOW THE THIS EVENT TO SHOW THE
REPORTERS AND TO RALLY THE REPORTERS AND TO RALLY THE
TROOPS TO GET RESIDENTS REALLY TROOPS TO GET RESIDENTS REALLY
KEYED IN ON WHAT’S HAPPENING. KEYED IN ON WHAT’S HAPPENING.
>>FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GO>>FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GO
QUICKLY HOW TO GET INVOLVED QUICKLY HOW TO GET INVOLVED
NEXT WEEKEND? NEXT WEEKEND?
>>GO TO SBJ DETROIT.COM.>>GO TO SBJ DETROIT.COM.
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CENTER. CENTER.
PLEASE COME OUT AND JOIN US, IT PLEASE COME OUT AND JOIN US, IT
WILL BE A FUN DAY. WILL BE A FUN DAY.
>>AND A LEFT POINT, THERE’S AN>>AND A LEFT POINT, THERE’S AN
OLD SAYING MICHIGAN. OLD SAYING MICHIGAN.
HE IS EAGER TO GET A HANDGUN HE IS EAGER TO GET A HANDGUN
PERMIT THEN RECORDS FROM YOUR PERMIT THEN RECORDS FROM YOUR
GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT.
DEMAND THAT THEY PUT UP THESE DEMAND THAT THEY PUT UP THESE
FINANCIAL HURDLES THAT MAKES IT FINANCIAL HURDLES THAT MAKES IT
REALLY HARD. REALLY HARD.
>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

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