“Forex Trading For Financial Freedom” Navin Prithyani | Trader Interview


(clicking) – Welcome back, everyone. I’m sitting down today
with Navin Prithyani. Navin, thank you for
welcoming me into your home. – Thank you.
– A pleasure in Bangkok. I love it. It’s a beautiful place, and we thought we would do a second interview today. We did a few once before, one last year. I came to your place again. We talked about price action. We’ll link that below if
you are gonna check it out. We did one after also on
how to plan your success, which was really loved by
people here on the channel. And so today I want to
talk about something that you are very good at, which is how to trade to get more freedom. I think that’s a goal a
lot of people want to have. So for people who don’t know you, tell people who you are, what you do, and a bit of background about yourself. – Okay. Obviously my name is Navin Prithyani. I am a senior trader at forexwatchers.com and a mentor and educator
at urbanforex.com and CEO of Black Tower
Investments Ltd. in Hong Kong. That’s my background. I think that question that
you asked about freedom, to me maybe that word
is a little bit unique because a lot of people
get into this industry thinking this is a way out,
but to actually do this successfully you’ve got to go all in. Instead of a little bit
in to look for a way out, it’s sort of like an oxymoron. It’s controversial. It doesn’t work that way. That’s my experience, obviously. I think there’s a lot of hard
work that needs to be put in because you can go to college, you can graduate from high
school, you can get a job and make some money. Then you can go to a university
and get a bachelor’s degree. You can make a little bit more money. You can go get a master’s,
make a little bit more money, a PhD, a lot more money. But then in forex
there’s no such thing as, if I learn a little bit more I’ll make a little bit more money. It’s either you make money or you don’t. It’s basically you go
straight PhD or you don’t. Like you don’t make any money at all. So there is no, if I learn a little bit I’ll make a little bit of money. There’s no such thing as that. It’s either you make it or you don’t. I think when you look at
it in that perspective, there is no, I’m gonna half-ass it. Sorry of using that word. You can’t half it, you know. – Yeah, that’s a good point. And I think it’s something
like you mentioned, the fact that you have to go all in. It’s kind of a different
shift in your lifestyle too. Like you might be more free to travel, do whatever you want, have some fun, like you’ve been traveling a lot recently which is pretty cool. So tell me more about it a little bit, those travels and everything you do. – Well, traveling has
been a passion of mine since I was a child, so that didn’t come from
the work side of things, but trading in general
helped me to do that. It’s not a bad thing. I don’t look at them as connected, but at the same time I also feel blessed that because I’m a
trader I have the ability to travel a little bit more easier because I don’t need to
sign a piece of paper saying, can I take a week
off three months from now. So, I do have that little
bit of flexibility there, but yeah, because trading
is more internet-based I’m very very conscious
about where I’m going based on time zone in terms
of where are you gonna trade, and does the time zone line up with when you’re awake and alive. (laughs) You don’t want to do it
in the middle of night when you’re really tired or exhausted. So, I’m very conscious of that. – Yeah. And one thing that I think
I’ve noticed for myself over time is that the
more discipline and effort you put into trading, the
more freedom you can have. So it’s like the opposite. Like people expect to gain freedom, but they have to put in
more work to gain freedom, like you mentioned earlier. – Yeah. If we’re being honest
here, that’s how I got in, thinking this is my way out, and then it turned out to be quicksand and I got dragged in
more and more and more up to a point where I’m like,
I was working eight hours a day at my other job, I was
working for a bank before, and now I’m doing close to 20 hours a day, four hours of sleep, and
doing this over and over. I mean, I don’t trade like that anymore, but I spent so much time into it that I don’t think the average newcomer who comes to the industry realizes that there is no mid grounds. You actually have to go all in. That word just keeps
coming into my mind of, you’ve got to go all
in with all your might, all your energy. You’ve got to use all your background of when someone said you can’t do this, you’ve got to bring that
energy in there as well. Whatever you have to do
to get that fire going and saying I’m gonna do this,
whether it takes one year, 10 years, 50 years, and
you come with that mindset of I’ve got to push, and
there’s no looking back. – Yeah, and I fully
agree with that for sure ’cause I’ve been doing the same. This is like a sacrifice mode that you have to go through sometimes when you start, not like forever, but when you start, and
that is required for anyone. So what was that phase for you, of like trying to make it work? What did you have to do
exactly to make it work? – Well for the longest time
it was the knowledge part. My first phase was, I
don’t know what I’m doing. As much as I’m doing it, I
don’t know what I’m doing. So it’s like even if I’m
sitting here 20 hours a day, if I don’t know what I’m supposed to do, then I’m just wasting time. It’s like going to the gym and
you practice the wrong way, it’s actually gonna be
harmful than beneficial. So I was putting in a lot of hours. My mental capacity, thinking
if I put in a lot of hours I’ll get the benefit from
it, but you can’t do it if you’re doing it the wrong way. And obviously there’s
not one single right way, there’s multiple ways, but
I kept putting in the hours, doing the research, looking
for techniques and strategies, what works best, and
basically what can I do that will always make
money and never lose, so that was my mental state
at that point when I started. Then came to phase two
when I did have an idea of what I need to do, and stage two was a
psychological barrier of, can you do this regularly? Can you do this frequently? Can you do this bigger? ‘Cause that’s the next
stage, is like, okay, if you understand how the markets work, then why are you trading one mini lot? Step up your game, show me. So that inner voice keeps battling you, saying, what’s the point
of trading one mini lot? Come on, do standard lots. And then that’s the next
psychological barrier that you have to overcome. Up until a certain point,
money has a story behind it. If you say I made $500 today,
to some people that’s rent, to some people that’s shopping money, to some people it means nothing. But it has a meaning. That number has a meaning to many people. So in the beginning you have to go through the psychological barrier
to remove the meaning from the number, that
this is just a number. It doesn’t matter. So that part was hard for
me because in university I had not much money to myself
and every penny counted, so every time I made a
loss I actually felt it. Like, ah. That meant that that’s my
rent or that’s my food, so I really felt it. That psychological barrier
is like the next phase that you have to overcome. – Pretty curious here,
because that’s something that I see a lot of
people have trouble with, the money mindset if you can call it. So how did you kind of shift that? How did you learn that money was something that you weren’t too attached to? How did that look like? – Well, I don’t know
how that shift happened, but I do know that that was
a big barrier in my life. It was a huge huge factor in my life, because you’re bombarded
with, especially in college, you’re like if I graduate,
I’m gonna get a job with this much salary. Now whether someone says
your salary is 30,000, 50,000, or 100,000, it’s just a number, but what that means to you, right, like 30,000 means this is
my house, this is my car, this is my shopping, 50
means this is my house, this is my car, this is my shopping. So when you think of it in that sense, that stuck with me I would
say for more than five years, where money up to 20, $25,000 had meaning, and breaking that barrier,
I couldn’t break it, so my hack was I’ll move to India because $25,000 goes a long
ways in a place like India. But after a while I started to realize that’s not a way out. That’s just cheating life basically. You have to break the barrier
of the number means nothing. It’s just a number. And then pushing through that. So that was a tough part for me. I would say even tougher than
learning what to do correctly. – And I think this is why some people say that what counts is not like
the gold, the results you get, but the things you’ve built over time. Like how you change over
time with each of your goals. – Right, right. And I get that a lot too,
when students ask me, okay Navin, what’s the perfect strategy? What do I need to do? And then I’m like you know what, even if I gave you the
exact thing that I do, I’m sure you can’t do it. And in the beginning they don’t
understand what that means, and that’s normal, and
they’re not supposed to understand what that means
because they don’t have any exposure to, there’s
a different angle to it. So when you get the strategy
that’s supposed to be right, you’ve got to put in
the time and hours of… It’s like an archer if he
has to pull the arrow back and shoot it. I can explain that to you. Just hold the archer like this,
pull the arrow back, let go. Your goal is to hit the middle dot. That’s the perfect strategy. But now can you do it? That pulling it back, that feeling, that stretching, of how much should I pull and all that, so that’s
very difficult to master and that takes some time to
do it over and over and over. So the strategy is, that’s
what you need to do, but the experience is,
now let’s do it 500 times. What happens is, people
look for the strategy, they take the strategy,
and when it doesn’t work the third time they quit. That part is the hardest one that I’ve seen time and time again, that people need to persevere. This is not an industry
where you can call it quits, change your major, and then good luck and you’ll get a job somewhere else. It’s not like that. You have to persevere. – I was gonna ask you, where are places where people fall when they apply? So let’s say you give them a strategy. Where do they fall? Is it when like being persistent with it, so doing it all the time,
or is it something else? – They fall in the idea
of understanding risk. See, so in the beginning,
and this happens to me too, so please put me in the
same category of that. In the beginning the mindset
is only focused on opportunity. You’re only looking for,
where can I make money, where can I make money? Instead of, which is much
later as an experienced trader, your objective is, where
can I not lose money? See this, two differences. One is trying to protect your money. The other one is trying to
say, where can I make money. The where can I make money attitude actually gets you into every
trade, good ones and bad ones, and the bad ones because of
psychology in the beginning will overrule the good ones, so your losing trades will become bigger than your winning trades, and
that cycle is very dangerous. So getting to that point
where you need to realize you’ve got to protect your
money instead of make the money, or looking for opportunities
time and time again. There needs to be a shift in thinking. – That’s a major shift for most people. Like when they get this
they completely change. – Right, right. – Awesome. You are one of, I would
say one of the best people I know when it comes to
explaining price action, how to trade price action. I think it’s very cool that say
that your price action align but they really don’t, or they don’t know how to explain it, how to do it. Often it’s just like a series of action which they really can’t
put down and explain. So I kind of want to hear, what is your trading process exactly? What does it look like
trading price action for you? – Okay. Well, I do a lot of trend pullbacks. I need momentum. I need the markets to be in a flow. I can’t trade dead markets,
so you won’t see me trading between the U.S.
close and Asian open. I don’t do that stuff. I don’t scalp. I’m not looking for,
can I make a quick buck and then cross my fingers. So I’m not doing that. I’m looking for more of a
strategic planned execution where I can sit back and
say, okay, I’m in the trade, I’ve done the best I could, and now the market’s gonna tell me. Now the markets are gonna
tell me if I’m right. And doing it over the
years, it’s sort of like you have this connection with the market and the market basically
guides you through. Like, it’s a little bit different today. You ready? And if you’re not focused enough, you’re gonna be like,
but I’m just gonna do whatever I normally do,
and that can get you, ’cause the market
slightly tips and changes on the day to day basis, so you’ll never get the
same trade ever again. So when it tells you that
little different story you need to be so aware and focused that, I see it’s a little change. Am I ready for that? Can I do this? And is it gonna cost me money? That’s how I approach price action, is just being a little bit more focused. – So it’s about understanding
where the market is when you start to trade, and kind of like understanding what to do from there? – Yeah, so for me there
is levels of a trade. So there is the preparation phase, which is very very important. You can’t skip that. If you feel you’re in a trade and you don’t know what to do
next, preparation has failed. You’ve got to go back to that. It’s not how you do the trade. It’s preparation, it’s failing there. So you’ve got to master
the preparation phase. Then if you know what
trades you have to take because you take the trade, but then the trade runs away without you, then it’s a second phase, which is you’ve got to
master your entries. How do you time it to get it just right? Then the next phase is,
once I master the entries, my profits are still low,
but my losses are high, but my entries are good. Then you have to master trade management. How do I learn to stay in the trade and stay with the trade as long as a trade allows me to stay in it with it? Rather than panicking and saying, but this is where I should
exit, or this is my stop loss. I made enough money. Look at that dollar amount, and close. That part you have to control. And then the fourth phase is obviously recapping the whole thing and saying, can I remember this to
do it all over again if I see it again? So these four phases are equally important and not one should be overlooked. – Yeah. And that’s a huge process. It took probably like even years to master and be able to execute right. – Yes, and you’ll actually
see a lot of students come to you and they’ll
go through these phases and a lot of them will tell you, I have a problem with the entering part. And then they’ll master the entering part, but they’ll still not be making money because they don’t know
what to do after they enter, because once they enter,
their brain goes blank. Like (gasp). What do I do now? Where do I exit, and how should I exit? Or is it just always 30 pips, take profit? Or 40 pips, take profit? So it can’t be a fixed
number, and you need to let the market tell you how
much you can ride it. That’s the fun part I
think of the journey, to learn all these little little steps to make sure that you master each stage. – And being able to adapt. So I would love it if you can, because obviously we
don’t have any charts now, but if you can show people
what that looks like on a chart, I think it
would be really helpful. – Sure, sure. And so if you want to
after this interview, I can show you on my screen. We can record it if you want. – That would be awesome. So guys, we’ll put the
link below for that. We’ll create a page special where Navin’s gonna explain to you what he’s doing and how
he looks at the market, so we’ll put that on the side, but check out the link below. That should be the first thing. We’ll put that description
and stuff if you can watch it. You just have to go to that link and watch that after the
interview if you want. – Yeah, it’s gonna be more based on that human psychology part that we discussed in our previous interview,
so maybe this time I can show it to you on a chart then. It’s easier to understand if
it’s visual, right, obviously. Yeah, we can definitely
do that, no problem. – I remember the first time we talked. We discussed a little bit of travel, that you are traveling,
you had these routines that you were doing on a daily basis to kind of get back on track and trade, and there were some days
where you didn’t trade ’cause you were traveling sometimes. – Right. – I want to hear, for
someone that wants to do this almost full-time, which is
like traveling and trading, how should they organize
themselves to be able to do it? Are there things that they
kind of have to plan first, or can they just leave and travel and then keep trading at the same time? How do you see this? – Actually you bring up a very good point about that, should they leave and travel. I think that should never be done. They can’t just leave and go, because especially if
you’re new to traveling, you’re so excited about the travel that you can’t focus on trading, so you obviously want to do
the travel and trade part once you’ve traveled a bit already without the pressure of trading. You’ve got to travel a bit
until you become numb to it a little bit where it’s like normal, and then you can travel and trade because you need full focus in trading. There is no half-assing it, right? Like you’ve got to be all
in, you’ve got to be all in. What I’m about to say might
sound a little bit weird, but I look at it in two different ways. This is personal to me. I’m just gonna explain how I look at it. I look at trading and who I
am as two separate things. If I wake up in the morning
and I don’t feel 100% in my A-game or I feel tired or lethargic after a meal or anything
like that, I can’t trade. Even though in my mind
I have the best strategy in the world, I can’t do it. It won’t work because my physical body and my mental state is not ready for it. So getting into that
mindset of, you’re here, you’re gonna conquer,
and you’re gonna win, requires some energy in the mornings or before you sit down to trade. You’ve got to get into
battle mode basically. So once you get the mind ready, then you are looking for,
now is there an opportunity that has low risk available for me? You need those two aspects together. So when you’re traveling and trading, you might get the
opportunity but you yourself might not be ready. I don’t know if that makes sense. – Yeah, for me that makes sense
a lot because there are days where like you don’t want to trade. You feel like you’re not in line with what you should do,
and those days are tough. So, is it a rule for yourself that like you don’t trade those days, or you find a way to get
yourself back in the zone? – I try to get myself back in the zone but it doesn’t happen all the time, and those days I don’t trade. It’s almost like you want
everything to line up in your brain, right? Like your mind, your trading,
and your opportunity, everything needs to line up perfectly, and like, okay now I can trade. It’s sort of like that. But if I don’t have those things lined up, there is a feeling of,
I’m gonna lose today, because I can feel I’m not on my A-game. Or at least the first few
trades are gonna be losses. – And this thing with your days, this is where I feel
the same about sometimes trading but sometimes
just business and work and I force myself to work sometimes, but then I make mistakes. In my trading I’m more like disciplined. It was like I don’t trade or I just like do something different. But when I work I make
a mistake with that. So it’s I think a really
good way to kind of stop and reflect back and just take a step back and maybe come back the next
day better, in better form. – Yeah, and I think that’s very important. Whether you think of this
as a new age mumbo-jumbo of meditation and all this
stuff, whatever it may be, in the past they called
it being in the flow. Today they call it meditation. You want to take it ancient
times they say focus. Whatever label you give
it throughout time, it’s just a matter of being
there for your charts. If you can get that to a point
where you know you’re there, then trading will become a
little bit more easier for you because you can notice
the little subtle changes in the market that you need to adapt to. – And how would that look like for you? What will you do to get to that level? – You mean like physically, like if I’m doing some kind of
yoga or something like that? – Is it actually yoga or is it just like an exercise perhaps? – I do stretching. I don’t do yoga. I do meditation, sometimes
twice a day if need be. There is a little trick that I do. If I’m not in my A-game and I still trade and then I lose, and then
I win, and then I lose, and I still feel I’m not on my A-game, but then I use the power of sleep. Come back the next day
and see if you’re okay, ’cause the sleep breaks
the emotional cycle, when you sleep and you wake up, but if you sleep and you wake up and you’re re-conflicted
with the same emotions from yesterday, you’re in trouble. There is something wrong in your life that you need to fix regardless. But if you sleep and you
wake up and you’re like, I feel good now, emotions are all gone, then you can sit down to trade. Sometimes even that doesn’t fix it for me, so what I do is then I start to wake up at three o’clock in the morning. – Okay. – I do that, and I start my day at three. The whole city is sleeping. You obviously see the skyline here. It’s like a billion people
in front of my eyeballs here. But I wake up when the
whole city is sleeping and I look at it like the
world is now in my hands and I need to really do what I need to do. Everything is quiet, there’s
no noise, everyone is sleeping. And then I get back to my rhythm. So I might wake up in the morning and still not feel it,
and I’ll play video games. Three o’clock in the morning
I’ll play video games, just to relax or do something, or I’ll take a long shower
and then go hot shower, cold shower, hot shower, cold shower, just to like spark the body. Wake up, wake up, you know like focus. And then I get back into my A-game. So I’ll do that for like a week. I’ll wake up at three, go to bed at seven, wake up at three, go to bed at seven. I’ll do that until I get
my rhythm or mojo back if you want to call it,
and that works for me. That’s my personal approach to it. – Nice. So it’s something that
people could try, perhaps. – They can. – But they have to find
what works for them. – Absolutely, absolutely. Everyone is unique. I can’t say this works for
me, so here’s a blueprint. Copy this exactly. It’s gonna work for you. Maybe it won’t. You can definitely try it
and see if it’s for you. – Same thing goes with adding
to strategies in trading. So other people that we talk about before they want to copy what you do or they want to copy what I do sometimes, and I force them to kind
of adapt the strategies or the strategies they learn to them. – Right, right. – Have you seen your
students kind of adapt what you teach them also to themselves, and how do they do it exactly? – I notice most… Unfortunately, most cannot adapt, so I actually make my
courses in such a way where I force them to adapt. It sounds communist (laughs) but I do it in a way where
it’s subconsciously happening. I love teaching as well. So it’s sort of a thing I incorporate. So it’s not all about, do
you have the knowledge. It’s, can you teach that
knowledge to a point where, how much time, how quickly
can you turn that student to be like, got it, aha! Like I just had my moment. I understood what he’s saying. So I take that upon as
a challenge as well. Like, how fast can I turn that aha moment. So yeah, I force them. I force them by delaying the next course. I force them by saying, I
need to see some examples. I force them in all different ways or many times I’ll teach backwards. I’ll start with something complex and I’ll work my way backwards, and then when they get
the basics they’re like, oh it all makes sense now. I can see why the advanced stuff, how it all fits in like a Lego piece. So that’s my approach to it. – Yeah, and I think you
really have a good way to teach people, a good way to explain concepts that people understand pretty quickly, from what
I’ve seen in the past. And people that follow your course and reach out to me, they
understood a lot of it or everything pretty much. – I hope so. (laughs) I hope so. Otherwise I’m in trouble. I would say I have the
world’s best students. They’re the nicest people on the planet. They’re very good,
they’re very intelligent, and they grow fast. I couldn’t be much prouder
than being their mentor or slowly also a colleague
because their levels are getting really high very quick. I’m happy to know them at
a personal level as well. – That’s pretty awesome. And you told me earlier
today that you’re working with apps now, with technology, so I kind of want to know how these days you use apps or technologies
to trade better. Are they things that you think
anyone would need to use? – Sure. Everything that I create is
something I need personally, and then we obviously
release it to the world and see if they want to
use it too, and they can. A lot of my days start with, what is the larger player doing? I can’t trade if I don’t know
what the big boys are doing. You want to call it big
boys, bank, hedge funds, whatever the name you want to give it. I want to know where the
focus in the world is. So, I use a specific
currency strength meter which we’ve developed. We call it the FX Meter. It’s on the iOS store. And what that does is I first
had it built just for me. I want to see at a single glance of where’s the money
flowing, and this is not just an indicator measuring these things. We use our in-house techniques
on how to measure this stuff. I have a colleague who
wakes up every morning and he looks at every
single chart, 28 pairs, and he handpicks how
the markets are reacting based on everything I’ve taught him, and he says, okay, today
the focus is on U.S. dollar. And then once we spot
that, then it’s like, okay, all energy. It’s like a lion sitting behind the bushes just looking out, and
it’s like you can see a whole bunch of animals,
but you want that gazelle because you know that’s the target today. It’s the same thing. So I use that app as I’m traveling. I don’t want to open up
and look at everything one by one, so we streamlined it and I had my colleague do this for me and I’m like, okay. Every morning I look at the app. It tells me an idea of what
my focus needs to be on and that gives me a good 30%,
I would even say 40% edge on the rest of the world
because I pick trades now that have a very very
high chance of winning and very low chance of
being risky or spiky trades. So those are the worst, right? You’re in the right trade
and it spikes you out and then it still goes, and you’re like, oh what just happened? It’s the misunderstanding of
where the flow of money is. You need to understand
where the flow of money is. Then you can avoid spikes as well. – So that’s kind of being
able to use something even on your cellphone where
you could be anywhere you want and still get the data? – Absolutely. – Which is pretty big. – Right, right. So I have it on my
fingertips and obviously I don’t need to do it myself every time so I have a colleague do it
so it saves me a lot of time. So I wake up in the morning. I can trust that information ’cause it comes from my
teachings to my colleagues, so I’m like okay, that data is
pure data that I can rely on. It’s not an indicator that’s
just following the market. I need that. – Do you ever place
trades on your cellphone, or is it always on the computer? – I place trades on my
cellphone all the time. I exit from my cellphone all the time. But, but… (laughs) Don’t do this. Please do not do this. It is something I can say I graduated to but I do not recommend anyone do this. You need to see the whole picture. You’ve got to be in front of your screen. As appealing as it looks
to trade on the go, trade on the fly, trade from the airplane. It’s fine, it’s great for social media, but it really is, you want to make money, sit behind a computer nicely. Look at the charts. Get a full understanding
without any distractions and then say, okay, now I know what to do. I can do it on my
cellphone as I’m going to 7-Eleven or something, I don’t know. But you gotta get the
picture in your head first of what needs to be done, and there needs to be no distractions. – A lot of times in the past where I was exiting a trade or entering
trades on my cellphone it was like basic emotion,
like in the moment. I would see it move and
I would want to enter. And that’s usually not the
right trade you want to put in. – Correct, absolutely, and
I agree with that 100%. All those trades that
I’ve done without knowing on my cellphone ’cause it looks good, I would say nine out of 10 times I lost. Nine out of 10 times, maybe
9.9 out of 10 times I lost. Those were horrible
trades, horrible horrible. – But if you’re organized,
you have your things you look for and everything,
then that could be a good process to be able– – Absolutely, absolutely. Then your cellphone is your buddy. It’s good to keep track. And here’s a little tip I
can share with you guys. I share it with my senior members. What I actually do, because I do a lot with the flow of money,
and maybe I can even share it with you guys when I
show you on the screen what I do things. So what I do is, sometimes let’s say the tiger is focusing
on U.S. dollar today, and if I’m focusing on U.S. dollar and I know the entire U.S. dollar group is moving in a certain way,
Euro/USD a certain way, pound/USD a certain way,
USD/yen a certain way, USD/Swiss franc certain
way, you get the idea. The whole U.S. dollar is
moving in a certain direction, and if I say I’m gonna trade pound/USD, what I do for my exits, I set alerts throughout the entire U.S. dollar group. The moment my cellphone starts vibrating, the alerts start going off,
I’m like, it’s time to exit, because the entire group
is reaching a level of support and resistance
and it’s going to bounce. So I don’t look for that
just what I see on pound/USD, but I look at the whole
group as a collective, but I don’t watch it to get
psychologically sucked in. I put alerts on all of
them and then I walk away and then I wait till,
whether I’m watching TV or I’m talking or handling business, when my phone starts buzzing,
one buzz I don’t care. Two, three buzzes
simultaneously side by side, okay, exit, exit. Markets are getting active. Everyone’s gonna start jumping in now. I will start exiting
because I can sell to them. I can start exiting. So that is a very quick hack on learning how to exit without
emotionally getting involved. – And I hear lately that’s like the power of using notification and
alerts to your advantage, which I’ve been using
also in the past year. – Right, good. – It’s been very useful,
so yeah, totally with that. – Yeah, it’s awesome. Technology doesn’t cripple us. It can actually make you stronger and you need to learn to
embrace it if you accept it. – Definitely. So guys make sure you check this out. Below the link for the video we’ll record about the charts, and that’s
gonna be super useful. I’m sure Navin is always
gonna give a lot of value and a lot of tips that he
didn’t share before even, so that’s always awesome. And I want to ask, Navin, is
anything we didn’t talk about you’d like to mention,
anything that you kind of maybe worked on the past year or any breakthroughs
you had this past year that you want to share with people? – Well as far as
breakthroughs are concerned, I made it second time on your interview, so that’s obviously good, right? (laughs) – Third time. – Yeah, third time, actually. Third time. So that’s obviously good. That’s a breakthrough for me
and I love being on your show. It’s great. You’re a great person to talk to and do an interview with. It’s always fun, and especially
seeing you in person also flying into Bangkok and meeting in person. It’s always great, it’s always great. The only thing we’ve done I would say from our last interview
we did a year ago with you till now, we released a
little bit more courses. We did a money management course. Remember I discussed
about how you’ve got to get rid of that psychological barrier of, what does money mean? So I’ve actually taught money
management without numbers. As weird as that sounds. People get shocked by money management. I’m not gonna do that. That’s like mathematical stuff. You can actually hack it, because you need to understand why. So I go deep into the why
and give you some techniques on how you should look at
your charts in a certain way using money management,
and we hack through the psychological barriers as well. So it’s money management mixed together with psychology around money. So we released that recently, and then obviously the FX
Meter app on the iOS Store. It’s also coming out on Android soon. These are the latest
things we’ve done so far. – Pretty cool changes. So how can people find you if
they want to connect with you or reach out after this interview, if they want to see what you’re doing? – Urbanforex.com would be the
best place to reach out to me. If you want to email me
it’s [email protected] That’s my email address
you can reach out to me. We’re doing an event in Thailand in April. We rented out a entire resort in Koh Samui so we’re having some
students fly in there, so that’s gonna be a great
time to gather around. You’re welcome to come if you’re in town. It’ll be fun. Yeah. These are the fastest way to reach me. Urbanforex.com as the
website, but if you want to get a hold of me personally,
then [email protected] – Awesome, and you’ve
been doing a lot of stuff. I had students reach out
in the past here from you. They got your courses,
went through training, and they got a lot of results,
so we’re happy about it. – Yeah.
– which is awesome. We have people that we
teach the good stuff and teach things that people can apply. You’re doing an awesome
job with that for sure. – Oh thank you, thank you, thank you. You mean the students, the
feedback you’re getting. – Yeah yeah, from your students, yeah. – Oh great, great. I’m glad to hear, I’m glad to hear. – So thank you very much. I appreciate it. – Thank you, always a pleasure. – And we’ll catch up soon. – Will do. Cheers, man. (upbeat music)

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