House Session 2012-05-17 (15:07:44-16:08:09)


FOR
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FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN RECOGNITION? I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE FIVE LEGISLATIVE DAYS TO REVISE AND EXTEND THEIR REMARKS, INSERT
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4130. EXTRANEOUS MATERIAL ON H.R. WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT MY AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE BE MODIFIED IN THE MANNER I HAVE PLACED AT THE DESK. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661 AND RULE 18, THE CHAIR DECLARES THE HOUSE IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR CONSIDERATION OF H.R. 4130. WILL THE GENTLEMAN FROM KANSAS, MR. YODER, PLEASE TAKE THE CHAIR? THE HOUSE IS IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ON THE STATE OF THE UNION FOR THE FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF H R. 4310, WHICH THE CLERK WILL REPORT BY TITLE. A BILL TO AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, TO PRESCRIBE MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTH FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES. WHEN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE HOUSE ROSE ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 16, ALL TIME FOR DEBATE HAD EXPIRE FED.
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BE ORER. NO FURTHER GENERAL DEBATE SHALL IN LIEU OF THE AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF THE SUBSTITUTE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES PRINTED IN THE BILL, IT SHALL BE IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AS AN ORIGINAL BILL FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT UNDER THE FIVE-MINUTE RULE, AN AMENDMENT CONSISTING OF THE TEXT PRINTED IN 112-132. NO AMENDMENT TO THAT AMENDMENT IN THE NATURE OF A SUBSTITUTE ORDER EXCEPT THOSE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 AND AMENDMENTS EN BLOC DESCRIBES IN SECTION THREE OF HOUSE RESOLUTION 661. EACH AMENDMENT PRINTED IN THE REPORT SHALL BE CONSIDERED ONLY IN THE ORDER PRINTED IN THE REPORT, MAY BE OFFERED ONLY BY A MEMBER DESIGNATED IN THE REPORT, SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, SHALL BE DEBATABLE FOR THE TIME SPECIFIED IN THE REPORT EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE PROPONENT AND AN OPPONENT, SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT AND SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO DEMAND FOR THE DIVISION OF THE QUESTION. IT SHALL BE IN ORDER AT ANY TIME FOR THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES TO OFFER AMENDMENTS EN BLOC. SUCH AMENDMENTS EN BLOC SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS READ, SHALL BE DEBATABLE FOR 20 MINUTES EQUALLY DIVIDED AND CONTROLLED BY THE CHAIR AND RANKING MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT OR DEMAND FOR THE DIVISION OF THE QUESTION. THE ORIGINAL PROPONENT OF THE AMENDMENT MAY INSERT A STATEMENT IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE DISPOSITION OF THE AMENDMENTS BLOC. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION? I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE, PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT MY AMENDMENT BE MODIFIED IN THE MANNER AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL READ THE MODIFICATION. AT THENED OF THE AMENDMENT ADD THE FOLLOWING, AT THE END OF SUBTITLE A OF TITLE 7, ADD THE FOLLOWING, SECTION 704, CERTAIN TREATMENT OF AUTISM UNDER TRICARE, A, IN GENERAL, SECTION 1077 OF TITLE 10, UNITED STATES CODE, IS AMENDED BY ADDING AT THE END OF THE FOLLOWING NEW SUBSECTION G-1. THE CLERK WILL SUSPEND. THE COMMITTEE WILL BE IN ORDER. THE CLERK MAY CONTINUE. PROVIDING HEALTH CARE UNDER SUBSECTION A UNDER PARAGRAPH 3-A, THE TREATMENT OF AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDERS SHALL INCLUDE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TREATMENT, INCLUDING APLIED BEHAVIOR ANALYSIS WHEN
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PRESCRIBED BY A PHYSICIAN. TWO — I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE MODIFICATION BE CONSIDERED AS READ? IS — IS THERE OBJECTION TO DISPENSING WITH THE READING? IS WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE READING IS DISPENSED. IS THERE OBJECTION TO MODIFYING THE AMENDMENT?
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AMENDMENT IS MODIFYING. WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA MAY CONTINUE. I YIELD MYSELF SUCH TIME AS I MAY CONSUME.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. WE HAVE WORKED LONG AND HARD, THE STAFF HAS WORKED
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LONG AND HARD TO GET US TO THIS POINT. THIS MANAGER’S AMENDMENT HAS BEEN WORKED THROUGH BOTH SIDES. WE HAVE UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT ON IT. IT’S A GOOD BILL, A GOOD ADDITION TO THE BILL, AND SKI THAT IT BE APPROVED. THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON SEEKS RECOGNITION. THOUGH I’M NOT OPPOSED I CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION. I YIELD TWO AND A HALF MINUTES TO MR. BERMAN, RANKING MEMBER ON THE COMMITTEE. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, AN THANK
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SMITH FOR YIELDING ME THIS YOU, MR. — AND THANK YOU, MR. TIME. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE MANAGER’S AMENDMENT BUT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE SMITH AMENDMENT WHICH IS PART OF THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT WHICH WILL BE TAKEN UP NEXT. I’M PLEASED TO JOIN RANKING MEMBER SMITH, CHAIRMAN MCKEON, FOREIGN AFFAIRS CHAIR
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ROS-LEHTINEN AS SPONSOR OF THE SMITH AMENDMENT. I’M PARTICULARLY PLEASED THAT THIS AMENDMENT INCORPORATES MOST OF H R. 3288, THE SAFEGUARDING UNITED STATES SATELLITE LEADERSHIP AND SECURITY ACT, LEGISLATION I INTRODUCED LAST NOVEMBER ALONG WITH DANMY SIOUX LOW — DAN MISSOULA AND OTHER, WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY 12 OTHER CO-SPONSORS FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, MANY OF WHOM ARE
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ALSO CO-SPONSORS OF THIS AMENDMENT. THIS BIPARTISAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WILL BE PART OF THE EN BLOC, WOULD HELP RESTORE AMERICA’S GLOBAL COMPETITIVENESS IN HIGH TECH SATELLITE TECHNOLOGY AND PROTECT VITAL U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY INTEREST. TREATING COMMERCIAL SATELLITES AND COMPONENTS AS IF THEY WERE LETHAL WEAPON, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY’RE GOING TO FRIEND OR FOE, HAS GRAVELY HARMED AMERICAN SPACE MANUFACTURERS. A VIEW BORNE OUT BY MANY INDUSTRY STUDIES AND ASSESSMENTS AND THE RECENT REPORT TO CONGRESS. WE DEPEND ON THESE MANUFACTURERS FOR CRITICAL NEEDS IF ONEROUS RESTRICTIONS COMPLETE THEM FROM — PREVENT THEM FROM COMPETING IN THE INTERNATIONAL MARKETPLACE, THEY CANNOT INNOVATE AND SURVIVE. THIS ALSO IMPACTS U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY, IT INCLUDES A STRICT PROHIBITION ON ANY SATELLITE EXPORTS TO CHINA. THE ORNLAL CONCERN THAT CAUSED CONGRESS TO TRANSFER ALL SATELLITES TO THE MUNITIONS LIST AS WELL AS TO IRAN, NORTH KOREA, SUDAN AND CUBA. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT, I THANK THE CHAIR AND RANKING MEMBER FOR SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. KEION, IS RECOGNIZED. — MR. MCKEON IS RECOGNIZED. I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HELPING BUSINESSES AND BEING ABLE TO DO BUSINESS ABROAD WHILE STILL PROTECTING THE SECURITY OF AMERICA. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER SPEAKERS? I’M GOING TO CLOSE ON MY SIDE. RESERVE.
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THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER.
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AMENDMENT. I SUPPORT THE MANAGER’S I AM GOING TO SPEAK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME ON THE SMITH-AMASH AMENDMENT COMING UP LATER THAT’S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF DISTORTED INFORMATION GOING OUT. I WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT SOME OF IT. THE GOHMERT AMENDMENT BEING OFFERED DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. STILL BE SUBJECT TO MILITARY CUSTODY AND INDEFINITE DETENTION. IT IS NOT CLEAR ON THAT POINT. LEAVES OPEN THE POSSIBILITY THE PRESIDENT WILL MAINTAIN THAT AUTHORITY AND THAT IS WHAT THIS DEBATE SHOULD BE ALL ABOUT. THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW HAS THE AUTHORITY TO GO OUTSIDE THE NORMAL DUE PROCESS CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHTS THAT ARE PART OF A COURT TRIAL AND LOCK SOMEBODY UP INDEFINITELY OR PLACE THEM IN
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MILITARY CUSTODY HERE IN THE U.S. THAT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF POWER TO GIVE THE EXECUTIVE
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AND LIBERTY. BRANCH OVER INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM I DON’T THINK IT IS NECESSARY TO KEEP US SAFE. 10 YEARS OF SUCCESSFULLY PROSECUTING, CONVICTING AND LOCKING UP TERRORISTS UNDER ARTICLE 3 COURTS HAVE PROVEN THAT. HANDS DOWN THE DUMBEST SET OF ARGUMENTS I HAVE HEARD IN DEBATING THAT IS CIRCULATING THAT SOMEHOW TAKING AWAY THIS EXTRAORDINARY POWER FROM THE PRESIDENT REWARDS TERRORISTS. I’D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY, IN PARTICULARLY, TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVES, THAT JUST BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT ARRESTS YOU DOESN’T MEAN YOU’RE GUILTY. UNDER THEIR THINKING, BASICALLY ONCE THE GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU’RE A TERRORIST, YOU’RE A TERRORIST.
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ABOUT IT. AND WE SHOULDN’T HAVE A TRIAL SO ANY EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A PROCESS, TO MAKE SURE YOU ACTUALLY ARE A TERRORIST, BECOMES REWARDING THEM. NO, IT’S THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ACTUALLY GUILTY. I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVES WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WHEN THE GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU’RE GUILTY OF A CRIME, THAT’S IT. NO TRIAL, NO PROCESS. LET’S JUST LOCK YOU UP AND
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FORGET ABOUT IT. THAT’S WHY WE HAVE A COURT SYSTEM.
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HERE. LET’S HAVE THE REAL DEBATE DOES THE PRESIDENT NEED THIS AUTHORITY TO KEEP US SAFE? I DON’T BELIEVE HE DOES. LET’S STOP THESE RIDICULOUS ARGUMENTS ABOUT REWARDING TERRORISTS AND HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND DUE PROCESS AND WITH THAT I
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TIME. YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON YIELDS BACK THE REMAINDER OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, IS RECOGNIZED. WAS THE GENTLEMAN — THAT WAS YOUR CLOSING REMARK? AT THIS POINT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD THE REMAINDER BALANCE OF OUR TIME TO THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. THORNBERRY. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE TIME. I THANK THE CHAIRMAN FOR YIELDING. MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO DEBATE A NUMBER OF THE ISSUES THAT THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER RAISED, BUT I DON’T THINK THAT WE CAN BE HERE ON THE FLOOR AND ALLOW SOME OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO GO WITHOUT SOME CHALLENGE. FOR EXAMPLE, TO SAY THAT A LETTER SIGNED BY TWO FORMER ATTORNEY GENERALS, A FORMER SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND A VARIETY OF OTHER OFFICIALS WHO HAVE HAD POSITIONS OF RESPONSIBILITY IN PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS WHO BELIEVE THAT THE SMITH-AMASH AMENDMENT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR EFFORT AGAINST TERRORISTS, TO SAY THOSE ARGUMENTS ARE SOMEHOW SILLY OR FOOLISH I THINK REALLY DEMEANS PAST ADMINISTRATIONS. IT IS NOT ACTUALLY FITTING FOR THIS SORT OF DEBATE. I UNDERSTAND THAT EMOTIONS CAN RUN HIGH WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND THERE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES TO BE DISCUSSED, SOME DIFFICULT PROBLEMS AND SOME CLEAR DIFFERENCES, BUT I HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE THE NATURE OF THE DEBATE IS ELEVATED SOMEWHAT BETWEEN BEYOND CALLING DISTINGUISHED FORMER OFFICIALS NAMES. NO, I WILL NOT YIELD.
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AND LET ME MAKE ONE OTHER POINT. ONE OF THE KEY PROBLEMS THAT MANY OF US HAVE WITH THE SMITH-AMASH AMENDMENT IS THAT IT WOULD BESTOW UPON ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO COME TO THIS COUNTRY TO CARRY OUT TERRORIST ATTACKS, IT WOULD BESTOW ON THEM FULL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. BASICALLY — I SAID I WOULD NOT YIELD. I ASKED AGAIN. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS CONTROLS THE TIME. WHAT THAT MEANS IS AS SOON AS A MEMBER OF AL QAEDA SETS FOOT ON AMERICAN SOIL THE FIRST THING HE HEARS AFTER YOU ARE UNDER ARREST, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY AND IF YOU CAN’T AFFORD ONE ONE WILL BE PROVIDED FOR YOU. THE QUESTION IS HOW WE SHOULD TREAT MEMBERS OF AL QAEDA TO CONDUCT TERRORIST ATTACKS, BUT I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THIS BODY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY DO NOT THINK TELLING THEM THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT AS THE FIRST THING THEY HEAR IS A WISE THING. SO AS YOU GO THROUGH THE ARGUMENTS — AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE TO READ THE LETTER THEMSELVES. I WOULD ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE TO LOOK AT TODAY’S WALL STREET JOURNAL JOURNAL — “WALL STREET JOURNAL” EDITORIAL AND THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION EDITORIAL ON THEIR WEBSITE TO LOOK AT HOW SIGNIFICANT THESE ISSUES ARE, THOUSAND HE HAD WOULD UNDERMINE — HOW THE SMITH-AMASH AMENDMENT WOULD UNDERMINE OUR ABILITY TO HELP PEOPLE AND HOW IT IS UNFAIR TO CHARACTERIZE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY A DOZEN OR EIGHT TO 10 FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS AS SOMEHOW FOOLISH OR SILLY. I THINK, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE CAN DO BETTER WITH THAT AND WITH THAT I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS
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BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT, AS MODIFIED, OFFERED
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BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO.
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IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT AS MODIFIED IS AGREED TO. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION? PURSUANT TO H.RES.
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661, I OFFER AMENDMENTS EN BLOC. THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC? AMENDMENTS NUMBER 2, 14, 15, 16, 21, 23, 25, 27, 28, 40, 43, 57, 74, 83, 95, 97, 102, 107 AND 126 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. MCKEON OF CALIFORNIA. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. MCKEON, AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON, MR. SMITH, EACH WILL CONTROL 10 MINUTES. THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. MR. CHAIRMAN, I URGE THE COMMITTEE TO ADOPT THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC, ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN EXAMINED BY BOTH THE MAJORITY AND THE MINORITY. MR. CHAIR, I YIELD AT THIS TIME ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. GALLEGLY. THE GENTLEMAN FROM
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CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN MCKEON AND ALSO RANKING MEMBER SMITH FOR ALL THEIR WORK IN PUTTING THIS BILL TOGETHER. MY AMENDMENT, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE EN BLOC, WILL ADDRESS THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THE EXPANSION OF SEA OTTERS INTO THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COASTAL WATERS. WITH THE OFFICIAL TERMINATION OF THE SEA OTTER CONTAINMENT ZONE BY THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE, SEA OTTERS WILL BEGIN TO MIGRATE SOUTH. AS THEY DO THIS THEY WILL BE
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AREAS. INVADING U.S. NAVAL TESTING WHILE I FULLY SUPPORT THE RECOVERY EFFORTS OF THE SEA OTTER, THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. BY CREATING MILITARY READINESS AREAS AROUND ST. NICHOLAS ISLAND, ST. CLEMENTE ISLAND AND CAMP PENDLETON, SEA OTTERS WILL BE ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR RANGE. AT THE SAME TIME THE NAVY WILL TAKE EXEMPTION WHICH ALLOWS THE NAVY TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONS OFF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA COAST WITHOUT HARMING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. FURTHER, WHILE IMPLEMENTING A PLAN FOR THE RECOVERY OF SEA OTTERS, THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE WILL HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE NAVY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE ON
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ENDANGERED AND THREATENED RECOVERY EFFORTS FOR OTHER SPECIES, AND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA CONTINUING A VIABLE COMMERCIAL HARVEST FISH HE WEREYS. I YIELD THE GENTLEMAN AN ADDITIONAL 30 SECONDS. I THANK THE CHAIRMAN. I URGE SUPPORT OF THIS EN BLOC AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED.
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I YIELD MYSELF ONE MINUTE. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. JUST TO RESPOND TO THE AGENTS OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. WHETHER AN ALEAP IS ARRESTED, WE WANT THEM ARRESTED, TRIED AND CONVICTED. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ACTUALLY ARE A TERRORIST IS A TERRORIST BEFORE WE DO THAT, TO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE SO THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T HAVE THAT TO SIMPLY LOCK SOMEBODY OUT WITHOUT DUE PROCESS AND A TRIAL. AND THEN THE ARGUMENT ABOUT HOW WE ARE BESTOWING UPON ILLEGAL ALIENS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. I HAVE BAD NEWS OF THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS. WE AREN’T BESTOWING ANYTHING. THE CONSTITUTION BESTOWS UPON THEM THOSE RICE. THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION SAYS ANY PERSON IN THE U.S., NOT CITIZENS, NOT LEGAL, IT DOESN’T MATTER. SO IF HE HAS A BEEF, IF HE HAS A BEEF WITH JAMES MADISON AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO SUPPORTED THE CONSTITUTION, AND WE HEAR CONSTANTLY FROM THAT SIDE STRICT INTERPRETATION, THE
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CONSTITUTION MUST BE ADHERED TO. THE CONSTITUTION SAYS ANY PERSON, NOT ANY LAWFUL RESIDENT OR ANY CITIZEN. THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION CLEARLY SAYS THAT. WE ARE NOT SAYING ANYTHING. THE GOHMERT AMENDMENT GOES OUTSIDE THE CONSTITUTION THAT CREATES RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT CONTEMPLATED IN HERE, SEPARATING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY IN TERMS OF WHO SHOULD GET WHAT RIGHTS.
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IT’S IN THE CONSTITUTION, ANY PERSON. I YIELD — I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. MR. CHAIR, I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. THORNBERRY, ONE MINUTE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM
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MINUTE. TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE STRONG VIEWS OF THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER. I WOULD JUST SAY THERE IS A REAL DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ABOUT TO WHAT EXTENT U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS WHICH EACH OF US AS CITIZENS ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE ARE BESTOWED UPON ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN AS SOON AS THEY SET FOOT IN THIS COUNTRY. NOW, THERE ARE PLACES IN THE CONSTITUTION IT SAYS PERSONS. THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IT TALKS ABOUT ACCUSED. BUT I WOULD POINT BACK TO SOME OF THE VERY CASE LAW FROM THE SUPREME COURT SUCH AS THE HYUNDAI DECISION WHICH REFERENCES THE DIFFERENCE IN PROCEDURE THAT IS TO — THAT DUE PROCESS REQUIRES FOR A CITIZEN VERSUS A NONCITIZEN. IT IS NOT A CLEAR-CUT THING TO SAY AS SOON AS YOU SET FOOT ON THIS SOIL THEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. AND THE PART THE GENTLEMAN, THE OTHER CONCERN THAT MANY OF US HAVE IS WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, THAT PREVENTS US FROM GETTING THE INTELLIGENCE, THE INFORMATION THAT PREVENTS THE ATTACK OF YOUR BUDDY, THE GUY NEXT TO YOU. THAT’S GOT TO BE FACTORED IN HERE TOO.
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THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED.
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RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON’S I’D JUST POINT OUT, MIRANDIZED OR NOT, NOBODY HAS TO SPEAK AND A TON OF INFORMATION HAS COME OUT OF PEOPLE AFTER THEY WERE MIRANDIZED. WITH THAT I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA, MR. LEWIS, FOR ONE MINUTE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM GEORGIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO THANK THE RANKING MEMBER FOR YIELDING. I RISE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT WHICH INCLUDES MY AMENDMENT, IT REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, THE R.S. AND COMMERCE TO CALCULATE THE TOTAL COST OF AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ TO EACH AMERICAN TAXPAYER. MY AMENDMENT IS ABOUT TRUTH AND TRANSPARENCY. AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW HOW THEIR TAXES HAVE BEEN SPENT SO WE CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT OUR BUDGET. EVEN IF YOU DO NOT OPPOSE WAR, DON’T YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT COSTS YOU, YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR
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GRANDCHILDREN AND YOUR GREAT GRANDCHILDREN? FOR TOO LONG THERE HAS BEEN A BIG FAT BLANK CHECK FOR WAR.
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OURSELVES. WE NEED TO BE HONEST WITH
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OTHER. WE NEED TO BE HONEST WITH EACH MR. CHAIRMAN, I HOPE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THE LEWIS AMENDMENT AND THIS EN BLOC PACKAGE. WITH THAT I YIELD BACK MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS TIME I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA FOR THE PURPOSE OF A COLLOQUY. THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR THIS COLLOQUY AND I’D LIKE TO THANK HIM, MY GOOD FRIEND FROM CALIFORNIA, FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS HARD WORK IN CRAFTING THIS BILL IN SUPPORT OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN THE MILITARY. AS YOU KNOW, THESE MEN AND
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GUARANTEE OUR SAFETY. WOMEN SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES TO IN RETURN, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE FOR THEM.
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AN ISSUE OF GROWING IMPORTANCE SPECIFICALLY, I’M RETURNING TO TO OUR COUNTRY AND THAT IS PROTECTING OUR MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN FROM THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG MISUSE. BECAUSE OF A PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL HARDSHIPS WE PLACE ON OUR TROOPS, THEY ARE AT AN INCREASED USE FOR USING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND THEREFORE MISUSING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. I WAS ENCOURAGED TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE PAIN MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE OF D.O.D. TO MITIGATE THE USE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THE COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND VETERANS’ ADMINISTRATION ADOPT THESE
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POSSIBLE. RECOMMENDATIONS AS QUICKLY AS MR. CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR YOUR HELP AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AS THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT MOVES INTO CONFERENCE. AND I YIELD TO THE GENTLEMAN. I AGREE WITH THE IMPORTANCE OF PROTECTING OUR SERVICE MEMBERS FROM SCRIPTION DRUG MISUSE IS OF VITAL IMPORTANCE. THIS BILL INCLUDES AN ITEM OF SPECIAL INTEREST FOR SUPPORT FOR SPECIAL — SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT PROGRAMS AND CALLS ON THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TO DEVELOP NEW TREATMENTS FOR TROOPS STRUGGLING WITH THIS DEVASTATING PROBLEM. I’D BE HAPPY TO WORK THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA TO CONSIDER THE APPROPRIATE MEASURES TO ADDRESS THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. I RESERVE THE TIME. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM OREGON, MR. BLUMENAUER. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR HARD WORK TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEM WHICH WAS CREATED IN THE MIDST OF THE COLD WAR BUT REMAINED RELATIVELY UNCHANGED DESPITE THE AMAZING ADVANCE OF
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OF IT OBSOLETE. TECHNOLOGY WHICH RENDERED MUCH WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REFORM TO DELIVER GREATER CLARITY AND EFFICIENCY.
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I THINK YOUR AMENDMENT MAKES PROGRESS. I HAVE THREE CONCERNS, PROVISIONS FIRST OF ALL THAT DEAL WITH THE REQUIREMENT THE ADMINISTRATION MAY BE CALLED UPON TO SPECIFY INDIVIDUALLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PARTS THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED, A REQUIREMENT THAT MAY BE IMPOSSIBLE TO COMPLY WITH, THE AMENDMENT INCLUDES SEVEN NEW REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF LITTLE USE BUT TAKING VALUABLE TIME AWAY FROM ENFORCEMENT AND FINALLY THE AMENDMENT WOULD REMOVE THE PRESIDENT’S EXISTING AUTHORITY IN PLACE SINCE 1998 TO WAIVE RESTRICTION ON SATELLITE EXPORTS LIMITING HIS
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ABILITY TO CONDUCT FOREIGN POLICY. I COMMEND THE GOOD WORK THAT IS IN THE BILL AND HOPE THESE PROVISIONS CAN BE ADDRESSED AS THE LEGISLATION MOVES FORWARD. I THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK.
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THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. I RESERVE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED. AT THIS TIME I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM INDIANA, MR. VISCLOSKY. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN YIELDING AND I RISE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN THAT AN AMENDMENT OFFERED BY MR. TURNER THAT IS CONTAINED IN THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT DOES NOT CURE PROVISIONS IN THE UNDERLYING BILL THAT WE CAN EN– THAT WEAKEN ENFORCE. OF WORKER HEALTH AND SAFETY AND CREATES A SELF-REGULATION REGIME FOR CONTRACTORS AT THE NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION THAT I BELIEVE WILL PLACE PROFIT ABOVE SAFETY. SECTION 3115 WOULD MOVE ENFORCEMENT OF WORKER HEALTH AND SAFETY FROM THE OFFICE OF HEALTH, SAFETY AND SECURITY TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION. A DECISIONALLY, IT RESTRICTS THE OVERSIGHT AUTHORITY OF THE DEFENSE NUCLEAR FACILITY’S SAFETY BOARD, A BOARD THAT’S PLAYED A VITAL ROLE IN INDEPENDENTLY ADDRESSING WORKER SAFETY AT LARGE D.O.E. PROJECTS. I WOULD QUOLET FROM THIS YEAR’S HOUSE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS REPORT, ACCOMPANYING THE FISCAL YEAR 2013 NRNL AND WATER BILL. I AM QUOTING THE REPORT. THE COMMITTEE BELIEVES THAT HAVING AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT CAPABILITY AT THE DEPARTMENT IS IMPORTANT AND SUPPORTS THE ROLE OF H.S.S. THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED. I YIELD ONE MINUTE
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MS. PINGREE. TO THE GENTLELADY FROM MAINE, THE GENTLELADY IS
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I THANK THE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING HIS TIME, MR. SPEAKER. THE AMENDMENT I’M SPONSORING TODAY SENDS A LOUDED ON CLEAR MESSAGE TO THE DEPARTMENTS OF DEFENSE AND VETERANS AFFAIR. IT SEND THE MESSAGE THAT THE PROBLEM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY IS REAL AND SIGNIFICANT. IT SEND THE MESSAGE THAT THEY SHOULD LIVE UP TO THEIR PROMISE AND REMOVE BARRIERS TO BENEFITS FOR VICTIMS. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO SURVIVORS. THE MEN AND WOMEN I HAVE MET WITH WHO VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE WERE DEDICATING THEIR LIVES TO A MILITARY CAREER WHEN THEY SUDDENLY FOUND OUT THEIR WORLD WAS CRASHING IN ON THEM WHEN THEY BECAME VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO THEM THAT WE HEAR THEM WE RECOGNIZE THE PAIN AND INJUSTICE THEY HAVE
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FOR IT. SUFFERED AND WE WILL NOT STAND I MET WITH SECRETARY PANETTA RECENTLY AND I KNOW HE UNDERSTAND THIS IS PROBLEM AND
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CULTURE. IS COMMITTED TO CHANGING THE WE CANNOT CALL THAT GOOD ENOUGH. WE NEED TO SAY IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS THAT WE WILL NOT ALLOW THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WEAR THE UNIFORM TO BECOME VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THAT WE WILL NOT FORGET THOSE WHO WAITED TOO LONG FOR THE BENEFITS THEY DESERVE. I YIELD BACK.
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THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. CAN I ASK HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE? THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS FIVE MINUTES REMAIN, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS 6 1/4 MINUTES REMAINING. I RESERVE. THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM CONNECTICUT, MR. MURPHY. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. I RISE TODAY TO SUPPORT MY AMENDMENT NUMBER 97 THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS EN BLOC PACKAGE. THIS WILL ALLOW AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS TO COMPETE FAIRLY FOR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CONTRACTS. MY STATE WHICH HAS BUILT SUBMARINES FOR THE NAVY AND SUPPLIED OUR ARMED SERVICES FOR GENERATIONS LOST ABOUT 130,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS AND THIS COUNTRY HAS LOST ABOUT SIX MILLION. AT THE SAME TIME, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE HAS BEEN
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AGGRESSIVELY OUTSOURCING WORK TO FOREIGN FIRMS. INSTEAD OF FINDING WAYS TO GET AROUND THE BUY AMERICA LAW, THEY SHOULD BE DOING MORE TO
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HERE’S AT HOME. PROTECT MANUFACTURING JOB WHEN WE LOSE THE CAPACITY TO PRODUCE AN ITEM OUR MILITARY NEEDS, WE PUT OURSELVES AT RISK AND WE ALSO LOSE JOBS THIS AMENDMENT ALLOWS FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO CONSIDER THE AMOUNT OF JOBS BEING CREATED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AS PART OF A BID FOR DEFENSE WORK. MOST OF OUR CONSTITUENTS PROBABLY THINK THIS ALREADY HAPPENS BUT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AMENDMENT FOR JOB
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CROWATION BUT ALSO FOR U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY. I’D LIKE TO THANK CHAIRMAN MCKEON AND RANKING MEMBER SMITH FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS ISSUE. THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. I RESERVE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. CHU.
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THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED. PERSONAL REASON FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT, MY NEPHEW WAS HAZED IN THE ARMY AND IT KILLED HIM. THEY STOMPED, KICKED, PUNCHED HIM AND POURED THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF A SANDBAG ONTO HIS FACE AND IN HIS MOUTH. IT LASTED THREE HOURS AND 20 MINUTES. 20 MINUTES LATER, HE COMMITTED SUICIDE. I THANK CHAIRMAN MCKEON AND WILSON AND RANKING MEMBER SMITH BECAUSE THIS BILL TAKES THE MOST SIGNIFICANT STEPS TO PROTECT SERVICE MEMBERS FROM HAZING EVER. MY AMENDMENT ADDS A G.A.O. REPORT TO HAVE AN OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS OF THE D.O.D.’S ANTI-HAZING POLICIES. IT ALSO ADDS AN ANNUAL REPORT TO CONGRESS ON WHAT THE D.O.D. IS DOING TO PREVENT HAZING TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS REAL ACCOUNTABILITY.
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THE GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS IS RECOGNIZED. I RESERVE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON. I RESERVE AS WELL. WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER, I DON’T BELIEVE HE’S PRESENT. I RESERVE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RESERVES. WE DON’T HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED. WE YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME. I ENCOURAGE ALL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT THE EN BLOC AMENDMENT AND YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENTS EN BLOC OFFERED
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BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE AYES HAVE IT.
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AGREED. THE EN BLOC AMENDMENTS ARE TO — ARE AGREED TO. IT IS IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN SEEK RECK MISSION? I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE OFFERED BY MR. KUCINICH OF OHIO. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO, MR. KUCINICH, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.
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I YIELD MYSELF ONE MINUTE. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. THE ADMINISTRATION’S USE OF SIGNATURE STRIKES RISKS DEATH OR INJURY TO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE HAD NO RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES. A RECENT REPORT BY THE BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM ESTIMATES THAT AT LEAST 2,292 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED BY U.S.
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2004. DRONE STRIKES IN PAKISTAN SINCE THE BUREAU ESTIMATES THAT OF THAT NUMBER, OVER 350 ARE CIVILIANS. A JULY, 2009, BROOKINGS INSTITUTION REPORT STATED 10 CIVILIANS DIE FOR EVERY ONE SUSPECTED MILITANT FROM U.S. DRONE STRIKES. YET ANOTHER STUDY BY THE NEW AMERICAN FOUNDATION CONCLUDED THAT OUT OF THE 114 DRONE ATTACKS IN PAKISTAN, AT LEAST 32% OF THOSE KILLED BY THE STRIKES WERE CIVILIANS. AGAIN, THAT WAS BEFORE WE ALLOWED DRONE STRIKES BASED ONLY ON SIGNATURE BEHAVIORS. WE CANNOT DENY THAT OUR DONE STRIKES HAVE RESULTED IN THE DEATHS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
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I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN
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RESERVES THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME.
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FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS SEEK RECOGNITION? I RISE TO CLAIM THE TIME IN OPPOSITION. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. AT THIS TIME I YIELD A MINUTE AND A HALF TO THE DISTINGUISHED RANKING MEMBER. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON.
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I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT. I THINK THE GENTLEMAN RAISES A LEGITIMATE POINT.
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PROPER OVERSIGHT. THE EXERCISE OF STRIKES NEEDS THERE WERE A NUMB OF WAYS TO HAVE GREATER TRANSPARENCY IN THE DECISIONS, WHETHER THEY’RE
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INDIVIDUALS. SIGNATURE STRIKES OR AGAINST BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, AL QAEDA DECLARED WAR AGAINST US 1996. THEY ARE ACTIVELY PROSECUTING THAT WAR AGAINST US FROM A NUMBER OF LOCATIONS, MANY OF WHICH WE DON’T HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE WOULD LIKE BUT CLEARLY IN THE FEDERALLY ADMINISTERED TRIBAL AREAS OF PAKISTAN, IN YEMEN AND SOMALIA, THEY’RE ACTIVELY PURSUING US. OUR JOINT COMMAND IS TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF THE NET WORKS AND KEEP THEM FROM ATTACKING US. THE ABILITY TO HIT THOSE TRAINING CAMPS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF PROTECTING US. AS GENERAL MCCHRYSTAL SAID, IT TAKES A NETWORK TO BEAT A NETWORK. WE NEED OUR NETWORK TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BEAT AL QAEDA’S NETWORK. THEY DECLARED WAR AGAINST US, THEY HAVEN’T CHANGE THARED MIND, WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY COUNTRY AGAINST IT, THIS AMENDMENT UNDULY RESTRICTS
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COUNTRY. THE ABILITY TO PROTECT THIS I YIELD BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO.
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I YIELD MYSELF ONE-HALF MINUTE.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. WE ARE TALKING
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ABOUT THE DEATHS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. A RECENT CARL IN “THE WASHINGTON POST” REVEALED THE C.I.A. AND THE JOINT SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND HAVE BEEN GIVEN NEW AUTHORITY THAT ALLOWS THEM TO FIRE UPON TARGETS BASED SOLELY ON THEIR SO-CALLED INTENTION SIGNATURES, PATTERNS OF MAY HAVOR OBTAINED THROUGH AIR OBSERVATION BUT ALLOWING THEM TO CONDUCT DRONE STRIKES WITHOUT HAVING TO KNOW THE IDENT I HAVE TO THE PERSON THEY’RE TARGETTING IS IN CONTRAST TO TARGETED STRIKES ON SUSPECTED TERRORISTS ON LISTS MAINTAINED BY THE C.I.A. AND JSOC.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.
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HALF TO THE DISTINGUISHED I WOULD YIELD A MINUTE AND A
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ANDREWS. GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY, MR. THE GENTLEMAN FROM NEW JERSEY IS RECOGNIZED FOR A MINUTE AND A HALF. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND MY REMARK.
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THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. I RISE TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH A
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PERSON FOR WHOM I HAVE GREAT RESPECT. I KNOW HE OFFER THIS IS AMENDMENT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO AVOID A SITUATION WHERE OUR COUNTRY ARBITRARYLY TAKES NEBT HUMAN LIFE. EDGE HE’S RIGHT TO HAVE THAT CONCERN. I THINK IT’S ONE THAT’S WIDELY HELD. I THINK THAT THE ISSUE RAISED BY THIS AMENDMENT, THOUGH, IS WHETHER OTHERS CAN BE ENTRUSTED WITH STRIKING THAT SAME BALANCE OR WHETHER THE CONGRESS SHOULD ENACT A UNILATERAL PROHIBITION AGAINST CERTAIN KINDS OF ACTIVITIES. WHEN THE DECISIONMAKERS WHO OPERATE THESE DRONE STRIKES MAKE A DECISION, THEY HAVE TO STRIKE THIS BALANCE BETWEEN OUR MORAL OBLIGATION TO AVOID ARBITRARY ATTACKS ON INNOCENT PEOPLE AND OUR MORAL OBLIGATION TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY. AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF STRIKING THAT BALANCE AND I FRANKLY THINK THAT A BLANKET PROHIBITION AGAINST THE USE OF THESE STRIKES EXCEPT IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE KNOW THE IDENTITY OF THE TARGET UNDULY RESTRICTS THEM MAKING THAT JUDGMENT. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND SYMPATHIZE WITH THE GOAL OF THIS AMENDMENT BUT BECAUSE I THINK IT UNDULY RESTRICTS OUR OPTIONS, I URGE ITS DEFEAT AND YIELD BACK.
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THE GENTLEMAN YIELD BACK. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE CO-SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT, THE RANKING
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CONYERS OF 3467. DEMOCRAT ON JUDICIARY, MR. THE GENTLEMAN FROM — OF MICHIGAN. THE GENTLEMAN FROM
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MICHIGAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES. I THANK THE AUTHOR OF THE AMENDMENT AND I JOIN WITH HIM IN IT BECAUSE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE ADMINISTRATION POLICY UP UNTIL NOW HAS BEEN QUITE CLEAR. DRONES PURSUE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS WHO APPEAR ON A TARGET LIST MAINTAINED BY THE C.I.A. AND INITIATE ATTACKS ONLY WHEN DRONE OPERATORS ARE CONFIDENT THAT THE INDIVIDUAL BEING TARGETED IS A TERRORIST ON THAT LIST. NOW, WHAT THIS AMENDMENT ATTEMPTS TO ENSURE IS THAT THE MISSILE STRIKES BEING USED BY THE C.I.A. OR THE JOINT SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND ARE TARGETING ACTUAL TERRORISTS THAT POSE A THREAT TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND NOT AGAINST CIVILIANS WHO MAY LOOK SPRISHES TO A DRONE OPERATE — SUSPICIOUS TO A DRONE OPERATOR WHO IS OPERATING THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY. AND SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS MERELY THAT A NEW EXPANDED DRONE POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR INDISCRIMINATE MISSILE STRIKES AGAINST SUPPOSEDLY SUSPICIOUS INDIVIDUALS OBVIOUSLY INCREASES THE RISK OF CIVILIAN DEATH AND RISK INFLAMING AN ALREADY POWERFUL ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT ABROAD. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS POLICY WILL NOT MAKE US ANY SAFER. IT WILL DO JUST THE OPPOSITE. AND SO I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT OUR AMENDMENT SO THAT THE CONGRESS ASSURES THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND A MEASURED PRECISION AND DUE PROCESS ARE RETAINED AS CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF OUR COUNTRY’S DRONE POLICY.
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AND I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED.
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RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS MR. CHAIRMAN, I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED. I’M PREPARED TO CLOSE. PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE ON THIS AMENDMENT? THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE ON THIS AMENDMENT. FURTHER PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, MR.
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CHAIRMAN, HOW MUCH TIME REMAINS? THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS HAS 2 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO HAS 1 1/2 MINUTES REMAINING. MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND, THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE EMERGING THREATS AND CAPABILITIES SUBCOMMITTEE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM RHODE ISLAND IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO REVISE AND EXTEND. WITHOUT OBJECTION. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. AND I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO AND THE GENTLEMAN FROM MICHIGAN FOR OFFERING THIS AMENDMENT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I MUST RISE IN OPPOSITION. I CERTAINLY SHARE THE KESHES — THE CONCERNS. I KNOW OF THEIR GOOD INTENTIONS. I KNOW THE AUTHOR’S CONCERNS OVER CIVILIAN CASUALTIES AND CERTAINLY ONE CIVILIAN DEATH IS TOO MANY BUT, MR. SPEAKER, WE NOT JEOPARDIZE OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM BY HAMSTRINGING THEIR ABILITY TO ENGAGE WHEN THREATENED OUR RETURNED FIRE. THEY NEED TO BE USED JUDICIOUSLY AND APPROPRIATELY. I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE ONLY WHEN NECESSARY. THE LANGUAGE HERE AS WRITTEN WOULD THREATEN MANY OF THE MOST URGENT USES, REMOTE PILOT AIRCRAFT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF OUR TROOPS ARE UNDER FIRE FROM AN UNKNOWN ASSAILANT OR IF SOMEONE IS PLACING A BOMB, THIS LANGUAGE, AS I READ IT, WOULD TARGET AN INDIVIDUAL. MR. SPEAKER, PATTERNS OF BEHAVIOR ARE APPROPRIATE INDICATORS AND ARE VETTED STRENUOUSLY. JOHN BRENNAN AT THE WHITE HOUSE HAVE SAID PUBLICLY THAT THE DRONE STRIKE POLICY WAS ROOTED IN ADHERENCE TO THE LAW AND INDEED THE USE OF MILITARY FORCE PROVIDES THE PRESIDENT WITH AUTHORITY AND I QUOTE, USE ALL NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE FORCE. SO I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FOR OFFERING THIS — CAN THE GENTLEMAN YIELD ANOTHER 30 SECONDS? I YIELD 15 SECONDS.
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I APPRECIATE THE GENTLEMAN FOR YIELDING. THERE ARE STRICT POLICIES ABOUT HOW THESE TOOLS CAN BE USED. IT COULD MITIGATE OR PREVENT AN ACTUAL ATTACK FROM MATERIALIZING. IT COULD PUT U.S. SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN IN UNDO HARM AND COLLATERAL DAMAGE AND HARM TO CIVILIANS IS MINIMAL. THIS CRITERIA CAN BE USED AND I THINK THAT’S A TOOL WE NEED TO PRESERVE. THANK YOU AND I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED.
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RECOGNIZED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS
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PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. THE GENTLEMAN WILL STATE YOUR INQUIRY. AS A MATTER OF PROCEDURE, WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE, THE SPONSOR OF AN AMENDMENT OR OPPONENT OF AN AMENDMENT? THE OPPONENT REPRESENTING THE POSITION OF
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CLOSE. THE COMMITTEE HAS A RIGHT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO. I WILL CLOSE AND HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE REMAINING? 1 1/2 MINUTES. 1 1/2? THAT IS CORRECT. IN SUPPORT OF TRANSPARENCY OF THE DRONES ABROAD, OVERREACH IS UNCHECKED. THE ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO RELEASE THE JUSTIFICATION FOR PERMITTING SO-CALLED SIGNATURE DRONE STRIKES. THE ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO DISCLOSE WHETHER AND HOW THERE’S ANY FOLLOW-UP WITH THE FAMILIES OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS WHO DIE FROM A DRONE STRIKE. THE ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO DISCLOSE WHETHER CIVILIAN CASUALTIES ARE COLLECTED, TRACKED AND ANALYZED. OUR AMENDMENT, THE CONYERS-KUCINICH AMENDMENT, RECOGNIZES THAT INNOCENT CIVILIANS SHOULD NOT BE COLLATERAL DAMAGE. IT RECOGNIZES THAT SENDING AN UNMANNED PLANE TO DROP BOMBS WITHOUT KNOWING THE IDENTITY OF A TARGET DOES NOT REFLECT AMERICAN VALUES. IT RECKS THAT DRONES — IT RECOGNIZES THAT DRONES BOMBING PEOPLE OF UNKNOWN IDENTITY WILL GENERATE POWERFUL AND ENDURING ANTI-AMERICAN SENTIMENT THAT PROLONG AND EXPANDS WARS. IT RECOGNIZES THAT CONGRESS DID NOT GIVE THE EXECUTIVE — THE PRESIDENT UNLIMITED AND UNCHECKED POWER TO EXPAND OUR WARS ABROAD. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT DOES NOT EVEN BOTHER TO GIVE CONGRESS THE LEGAL JUSTIFICATION TO DO SO. NOW, YOU KNOW, IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE USE OF MILITARY FORCE IS BEING INTERPRETED, GIVEN CART BLANCHE TO CIRCUMVENT CONGRESS. WE OUGHT TO PUT AN END TO IT NOW. I YIELD BACK. THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS
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BACK THE BALANCE OF HIS TIME. THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED.
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THIS AMENDMENT RAISES A NUMBER OF CONCERNS. IT IS A VERY STRANGE THING, FOR EXAMPLE, TO SAY IN A WAR YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE NAME, RANK AND SERIAL NUMBER OF THE PERSON THAT YOU’RE ABOUT TO SHOOT BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN SHOOT THEM. AND TO PUT IT A LITTLE MORE IN THIS CONTEXT, THIS AMENDMENT, THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO’S AMENDMENT WOULD SAY, IF WE SEE PEOPLE MAKING BOMBS DOWN THERE THAT WILL BE USED AGAINST OUR SERVICE PEOPLE THAT WE CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE’VE JUST GOT TO WATCH THEM AND THEN EVEN AFTER THE BOMB EXPLODES UNLESS WE KNOW THE IDENTITY — WHICH IS THE LANGUAGE — UNLESS WE KNOW THE PERSON DOWN THERE, WE CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT’S AVAILABLE TO THE UNITED STATES. AND ACTUALLY GETS EVEN WORSE. IF WE SEE AL QAEDA MEMBERS SHOOTING AT OUR TROOPS DOWN THERE, IF WE DON’T KNOW THE EYE DEPARTMENTITY OR THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE DOING THE SHOOTING, THEN WE CAN’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SURELY THAT CARRIES THINGS FAR TOO FAR. WE CAN’T DEBATE IN THE OPEN HOUSE ALL OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE MADE IN NEWSPAPER ARTICLES. WHAT WE CAN DO IS SAY WHAT THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR OF THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID THAT THESE SORTS OF CAPABILITIES ARE ONLY USED PURSUANT TO LAW AND THEY ARE ONLY USED IF THERE’S A
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SIGNIFICANT THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES WHERE ACTION COULD MITIGATE OR PREVENT THE THREAT AND COLLATERAL DAMAGE OR HARM TO CIVILIANS IS ABSOLUTELY MINIMAL. THAT HELPS PROTECT OUR SOLDIERS AND OUR COUNTRY.
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THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE
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GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO. IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE NOES HAVE IT AND THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. THE GENTLEMAN FROM OHIO IS RECOGNIZED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER 4 PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. ROHRABACHER, SEEM RECOGNITION? I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK.
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THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485 OFFERED BY MR. ROHRABACHER OF CALIFORNIA. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. ROHRABACHER, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED, EACH WILL CONTROL FIVE
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MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPEAKER. SINCE 9/11 THE UNITED STATES HAS GIVEN PAKISTAN ABOUT $ 2 BILLION — 22 BILLION DOLLARS. THAT NUMBER IS TO EMBOLDEN PAKISTAN’S GOVERNMENT, TO MAINTAIN THE BRUTAL OPPRESSION OVER ITS PEOPLE AND TO CONTINUE ITS BLATANT SUPPORT OF TERRORIST ATTACKS ON NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES AS WELL AS ATTACKS ON AMERICAN TROOPS IN NEARBY AFGHANISTAN. MY AMENDMENT WOULD CUT OFF ALL
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AID IN THIS BILL DESIGNATED FOR PAKISTAN. IT WOULD END THE CHARADE THAT WE ARE BUYING COOPERATION IN THE ONGOING STRUGGLE AGAINST TERRORIST FORCES IN SOUTH ASIA. PAKISTAN ISN’T WITH US IN A WAR AGAINST TERRORISM. THEY ARE AT WAR WITH US. PAKISTAN AT BEST IS A WAR PROFITEER, TAXING OUR MILITARY SUPPLIES THAT PASS THROUGH THEIR COUNTRY WHICH FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS, BY THE WAY, THEY HAVE CLOSED TO RESUPPLYING OUR FORCES IN AFGHANISTAN. THEY ARE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK. OF COURSE, THE PAKISTANI PEOPLE WILL NEVER SEE ANY OF THAT MONEY. THE CORRUPTION IN PAKISTAN ITSELF IS REASON NOT TO GIVE AID TO THEM WHICH THEY WILL THEN PILFER. FURTHERMORE, THEY USE THEIR MILITARY POWER TO BUTCHER THOSE WHO DON’T WANT TO BE UNDER THEIR CORRUPT THUMB. HOW CAN WE FORGET THIS SAME PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT GAVE SAFE HAVEN TO OSAMA BIN LADEN AFTER HE LED THE CONSPIRACY THAT SLAUGHTERED 3,000 AMERICANS ON 9/11 AFTER OUR SEALS WENT IN TO GET HIM, THE PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT TOOK THE WRECKAGE OF A DOWNED STEALTH HELICOPTER OF OURS AND GAVE IT FOR STUDY TO COMMUNIST CHINA WHOM THEY REFER TO AS OUR — WHAT IS THE WORD NOW — OUR ALL-WEATHER FRIEND NOW. THEY HAVE GONE SO FAR TO ARREST AND IMPRISON WITHOUT TRIAL A DOCTOR WHO HELPED US GATHER THE INTELLIGENCE THAT LOCATED OSAMA BIN LADEN IN THE NEST THAT THIS PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT HAD PROVIDED HIM RIGHT THERE IN PAKISTAN. THE PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT THREW HIM IN JAIL AND ARE TALKING ABOUT TRYING HIM FOR TREASON FOR THE GOOD HELP HE DID US IN BRINGING TO JUSTICE THE MAN WHO SLAUGHTERED 3,000 OF OUR CITIZENS. AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO GIVE MONEY TO THESE PEOPLE EVEN AS WE IGNORE THE SUFFERING OF THE DOCTOR WHO IS IN PRISON NOW LANGUISHING IN PRISON AND ALL OF US ARE FORGETTING THIS HERO? WE HAVE LOST ALMOST 2,000 AMERICANS WHO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY AS PART OF OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM. MOST OF THOSE DEATHS WERE DUE TO PAKISTANI-INSPIRED AND SUPPORTED INSURGENTS. HOW MUCH MORE DOES THE PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT HAVE TO DO BEFORE WE QUICK GIVING THEM OUR MONEY? THEY ARE PLAYING US LIKE FOOLS WHILE MURDERING OUR SOLDIERS AND, YES, WE ARE ACTING LIKE FOOLS FOR GIVING THEM THIS MONEY DESPITE THAT. WE SHOULD HAVE QUIT BANK ROLLING THIS ROTTEN REGIME A LONG TIME AGO. MY AMENDMENT WOULD DO JUST THAT. THE PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT IS A TERRORIST GOVERNMENT THAT MURDERS AND EVEN ATTACKS ITS OWN PEOPLE LIKE THEY ARE. THEY ARE A PRO-TERRORIST RADICAL ISLAMIC CLICQUE THAT RULES PAKISTAN. THEY DON’T DESERVE ONE PENNY FROM US. WE NEED TO FINALLY STAND UP. IF WE NEED AN ALLY IN IN A AREA, LET’S GO TO SOME PEOPLE IN THAT AREA THAT WANTS TO BE FRIENDS, PERHAPS THE INDIANS.
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I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN RESERVES. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON RISE? TO CLAIM TIME IN OPPOSITION. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I YIELD TWO MINUTES TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. CONAWAY. THE GENTLEMAN FROM
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MINUTES. TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR TWO I STRONGLY URGE OPPOSITION TO THIS AMENDMENT WITH HEAVY HEART. SOME OF THE THINGS MY COLLEAGUE SAID IS ACCURATE. NEVERTHELESS, I DON’T WANT TO SEEM AS AN APOLOGIST TO PAKISTAN. WE HAVE TRIMMED THE MONEY BY HALF. WE HAVE STRENGTHENED THE CONTROLS AROUND THAT MONEY TO REQUIRE PAKISTAN TO CERTIFY TO US THROUGH SECRETARY PANETTA THAT IN FACT THIS MONEY IS BEING SPENT IN THE FIGHT AGAINST COUNTERTERRORISM. WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS ON THE FLOOR THIS AFTERNOON THAT DON’T HAVE ANY OPPOSITION WHICH WILL FURTHER STRENGTHEN THEIR CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND BY RESTRICTING ALL FUNDS UNDER THE D.O.D. POSITION SIMPLY PLAYS IN THE BAD GUYS’ HANDS IN PAKISTAN. IT WILL GIVE THEM NO INSENTIVE TO WORK WITH US AND WILL STRENGTHEN THEIR RESOLVE TO THE CROSS-BORDER OVERLAND PASSAGE OF U.S. MILITARY GOODS TO ASSIST US WITH THE FIGHT IN AFGHANISTAN. WHAT MY GOOD FRIEND — COLLEAGUE HAS MUCH GREATER EXPERIENCE OF THOSE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD THAN I DO, NEVERTHELESS, I STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THAT AMENDMENT. IT’S A MEAT CLEAVER BY TRIMMING THE MONEY BACK, PUTTING RESTRICTIONS ON THAT MONEY THAT
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ORDER TO GET IT. WILL FORCE THE PAKISTANIS IN BY THE WAY, THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN MONEY FROM D.O.D. SINCE JUNE OF 2010. SO WHILE THE COMMENTS ARE MADE MIGHT APPLY TO ALL FUNDING TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT ONLY
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APPLIES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE MONEY. WE HAVE NOT GIVEN THEM MONEY SINCE JUNE OF 2010. WE HAVE ADEQUATE PROTECTIONS IN THE BILL THIS TIME AND WILL STRENGTHEN THE PROTECTIONS DURING DEBATE AND VOTES THIS AFTERNOON AND I STAND IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT AND
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I YIELD BACK THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME.
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THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA RESERVES. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED. I YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS, MS. JACKSON LEE. THE GENTLELADY FROM TEXAS IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. I THANK THE GENTLEMAN AND I HAVE WORKED WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES BUT I RISE IN VIGOROUS OPPOSITION AS THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE FOUNDS OF THE PAKISTAN CAUCUS TO THIS AMENDMENT. LET ME FRAME THE REASON. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE A VERY RESPONSIBLE AND SIZABLE PAKISTANI AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT CHAMPIONS THE IDEA OF A DEMOCRATIC AND ECONOMICALLY STABLE PAKISTAN. IT WAS ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO THAT BENAZIR BHUTTO WAS ASAS NAYS — ASSASSINATED, HOWEVER THE GOVERNMENT THAT HAS CARRIED ON,ALL THOUGH LIVING IN A DIFFICULT NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVING DIFFICULT CHALLENGES, IS A RESULT OF HER EFFORTS TO TRY TO BRING DEMOCRACY TO PAKISTAN. IF WE ABANDON THIS ASSISTANCE, OBVIOUSLY, DEFENSE ASSISTANCE, WE ABANDON THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN, WE ABANDON THOSE WHO WANT AN EDUCATION, ECONOMIC STABILITY, WE ABANDON THOSE SOLDIERS IN THE PAKISTANI MILITARY WHO HAVE FALLEN IN BATTLE FIGHTING AGAINST TERRORISTS. WE WILL ABANDON THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE SWAT VALLEY, WE ABANDON THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN
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ABANDON THOSE WHO WANT THE MOUNTAINS OF PAKISTAN, WE DEMOCRACY AND WE’LL ABANDON PAKISTAN — CAN I GET AN ADDITIONAL 25 SECONDS?
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I YIELD THE GENTLELADY 20 SECONDS. THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED. WE ABANDON THOSE WHO WANT DEMOCRACY, AMBASSADOR SHERRY RAYMOND HERE, WHO INTERACTS WITH THE CONGRESS. PAKISTAN IS AN EFFECTIVE ALLY WITH CHANNELS. WE SHOULD NOT THENY THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT AND TURN THE CORNER. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF PAKISTAN’S ALLIANCE, IT IS BETTER TO BE ENGAGED THAN NOT BE ENGAGED, LET US OPPOSE THIS
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AMENDMENT,S THE WRONG DIRECTION TO GO. I YIELD BACK. THE GENTLELADY’S TIME HAS EXPIRE. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA IS RECOGNIZED. I RESERVE THE BALANCE OF MY TIME. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED. WE HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS, I WILL YIELD ONE MINUTE TO THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. THORNBERRY. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. I THINK ALL OF US SHARE THE FRUSTRATIONS VOICED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM
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CALIFORNIA BUT HI AMENDMENT GOES TOO FAR. I AGREE WE SHOULD LOOK FOR
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ADDITIONAL ALLIES IN THE REGION. THE PROBLEM IS THERE’S NOT ANOTHER ALLY IN THE REGION THROUGH WHICH OUR MILITARY CAN BE SUPPLIED. SO FOR THE SAKE OF OUR TROOPS IN AFTER FAN STAN AS WELL AS A LOT OF TELEBROADER INTERESTS IN THE REGION, IT IS PORN FOR US TO TRY TO IMPROVE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH PAKISTAN. AND AS MY COLLEAGUE FROM TEXAS SAYS, IN THE BILL NOW, WE CUT THE FUNDS FROM D.O.D. IN HALF AND WE REQUIRE A CERTIFICATION THAT PAKISTAN IS SUPPORTING OUR EFFORTS, THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO DISMANT THEY WILL I.E.D. NETWORKS, THAT THEY WERE PREVENTING THE PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR RELATED MATERIAL, THAT THEY ARE ISSUING VISAS IN A TIMELY MANNER FOR U.S. GOVERNMENT PERSONNEL INVOLVED IN COUNTERTERRORISM EFFORTS. WE PUT SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON ANY ASSISTANCE THEY GET. THAT’S A CARROT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO WORK WITH US RATHER
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NOTHING. THAN SAYING NO, YOU GET
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THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA.
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HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA HAS ONE MINUTE REMAIN, THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS 45 SECONDS REMAINING. THEN I WOULD PROCEED AND, IT IS MY
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SIDE CLOSES? UNDERSTANDING THAT THE OTHER THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON HAS THE RIGHT TO CLOSE. THEN I WILL PROCEED. I HAVE HERE 19 PAGES, I BELIEVE, 13 PAGES, OF RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD ON PAKISTAN AID OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. RESTRICTIONS THAT HAVE MEANT NOTHING. DURING THE TIME THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVING THEM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS, THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING SAFE HAVEN TO OSAMA BIN LADEN, WHO MASSACRED AND SLAUGHTERED 3,000 AMERICANS. HOW CAN WE FORGET ABOUT THAT? HOW CAN WE JUST GO ON AND GIVE THESE PEOPLE MONEY? PAKISTAN IS OUR FRIEND, NO, THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN CAN BE OUR FRIEND, THEY ARE OUR FRIEND. BUT WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEIR GOVERNMENT IS A TERRORIST SUPPORTING GOVERNMENT AND A
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GOVERNMENT. RADICAL ISLAMIC SUPPORTING AND WE CONTINUE TO GIVE THEM MONEY AS THEY SUPPORT INSURGENTS THAT KILL OUR PEOPLE OVERSEAS. IS THERE ANY DOUBT ABOUT THAT?
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ADMIRAL MULLEN CONFIRMED IT FOR US. WHY ARE WE IGNORING THAT?
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COWARDS. WE’RE ACTING LIKE FOOLS AND IT’S TIME FOR US TO STAND UP FOR THE AMERICAN DEFENDER WHO ARE OVER THERE PUTTING THEIR
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LIVES ON THE LINE AND SAYING NO. IF WE CAN’T GIVE, IF WE’RE GOING TO GIVE MONEY TO THE PEOPLE KILLING YOU, WE’RE NOT
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GOING TO DO THAT PERIOD. THAT’S GOING OVER THE LINE. I WOULD SUGGEST TO MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN ME IN
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DEFUNDING THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES. THE GENTLEMAN’S TIME HAS EXPIRED. THE GENTLEMAN FROM WASHINGTON IS RECOGNIZED. I YIELD MYSELF THE BALANCE OF OUR TIME. THE GENTLEMAN IS RECOGNIZED.
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WE ARE NOT IGNORING ANY OF THAT. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS WE DISCUSSED IN THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, REGRETTABLY, PAKISTAN IS IN A PART OF THE WORLD WHERE WE HAVE NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS. PAKISTAN HASED A — HAS AT VARIOUS TIME GIVEN CRITICAL SUPPORT TO GET SUPPLIES TO OUR TROOPS AND THEY HAVE ASSISTED US IN GOING AFTER VARIOUS TERRORIST GROUPS INSIDE PAKISTAN. THAT’S BEEN MAYBE 2% OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE BUT THAT 2%, REGRETTABLY IS HELP WE CANNOT TURN AWAY. IT IS A VERY PROBLEMATIC
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GENTLEMAN WHO OFFERED THIS RELATIONSHIP, I THINK THE AMENDMENT DESCRIBED THAT QUITE WELL BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO SIMPLY CUT IT OFF BECAUSE OF
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HOW IMPORTANT THAT REGION IS TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS. HIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO THAT AND IT’S BAD POLICY FOR THIS COUNTRY, BAD POLICY FOR OUR TROOPS AND BAD POLICY FOR OUR NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS. THEREFORE I WOULD URGE US TO OPPOSE IT.
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THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK. THE QUESTION IS ON THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY THE GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR. ROHRABACHER. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED, NO.
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IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR THE NOES HAVE IT. THE AMENDMENT IS NOT AGREED TO. I ASK FOR A RECORDED VOTE. THE GENTLEMAN SEEKS A RECORDED VOTE. PURSUANT TO CLAUSE 6 OR RULE 18, FURTHER PROCEEDINGS ON THE AMENDMENT FROM THE GENTLEMAN
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FROM CALIFORNIA WILL BE POSTPONED. IT IS NOW IN ORDER TO CONSIDER AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES THE
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GENTLELADY FROM CALIFORNIA SEEK RECOGNITION? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT AT THE DESK. THE CLERK WILL DESIGNATE THE AMENDMENT. AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE PRINTED IN HOUSE REPORT 112-485, OFFERED BY MS. LEE OF CALIFORNIA. PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 661, THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MS. LEE, AND A MEMBER OPPOSED EACH WILL CONTROL SIX MINUTES. THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA. LET ME JUST SAY THIS, IT IS DOWN RIGHT OUTRAGEOUS THAT THE MCGOVERN-JONES AMENDMENT WAS RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE RULE COMMITTEES,

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