Lawmakers In Limbo As They Wait For Trump On Guns | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


>>>THIS STORY IS IMPORTANT.>>>THIS STORY IS IMPORTANT. THIS WEEK PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THIS WEEK PRESIDENT TRUMP IS EXPECTED TO MAKE A DECISION ON EXPECTED TO MAKE A DECISION ON GUN CONTROL. GUN CONTROL. HE TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HE HE TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HE WOULD. WOULD. IN PRIVATE MEETINGS AND PHONE IN PRIVATE MEETINGS AND PHONE CALLS, LAWMAKERS ARE COURTING CALLS, LAWMAKERS ARE COURTING THE PRESIDENT. THE PRESIDENT. SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI AND CHUCK SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI AND CHUCK SCHUMER TO JOIN THE PRESIDENT SCHUMER TO JOIN THE PRESIDENT FOR A ROSE GARDEN CEREMONY IF HE FOR A ROSE GARDEN CEREMONY IF HE PASSES A MORE EXPANSIVE BILL. PASSES A MORE EXPANSIVE BILL. DEMOCRATIC SENATOR JOE MANCHIN DEMOCRATIC SENATOR JOE MANCHIN IS OFFERING TO NAME A BACKGROUND IS OFFERING TO NAME A BACKGROUND CHECKS BILL, ONE HE’S BEEN CHECKS BILL, ONE HE’S BEEN WORKING ON FOR SIX YEARS IF THE WORKING ON FOR SIX YEARS IF THE PRESIDENT SUPPORTS IT. PRESIDENT SUPPORTS IT. HE KNOWS PRESIDENT TRUMP LIKES HE KNOWS PRESIDENT TRUMP LIKES THINGS WITH HIS NAME ON IT. THINGS WITH HIS NAME ON IT. RYAN COSTELLO AND STEVE ISRAEL RYAN COSTELLO AND STEVE ISRAEL ARE JOINING ME. ARE JOINING ME. RYAN, IF YOU WANT TO GET RYAN, IF YOU WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE, GO TO WHERE THE SOMETHING DONE, GO TO WHERE THE PERSON IS, THE PRESIDENT LIKES PERSON IS, THE PRESIDENT LIKES HIS NAME ON THINGS. HIS NAME ON THINGS. CONGRESSMAN ISRAEL, WHAT DO YOU CONGRESSMAN ISRAEL, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS STRATEGY? THINK OF THIS STRATEGY? NANCY PELOSI SAYING WE WILL SHOW NANCY PELOSI SAYING WE WILL SHOW UP AND STAND NEXT TO YOU, JOE UP AND STAND NEXT TO YOU, JOE MANCHIN, I’M GOING TO PUT YOUR MANCHIN, I’M GOING TO PUT YOUR NAME ON IT? NAME ON IT?>>I AM PRAGMATICALLY>>I AM PRAGMATICALLY PESSIMISTIC. PESSIMISTIC. FOR AS LONG AS THE GUN LOBBY FOR AS LONG AS THE GUN LOBBY OPPOSES ANY COMPROMISE ON GUN OPPOSES ANY COMPROMISE ON GUN SAFETY AND MOST REPUBLICANS ARE SAFETY AND MOST REPUBLICANS ARE AFRAID OF THE GUN LOBBY, NOTHING AFRAID OF THE GUN LOBBY, NOTHING IS GOING TO GET DONE. IS GOING TO GET DONE. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS A DRAFT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS A DRAFT THAT HE’S CIRCULATING. THAT HE’S CIRCULATING. 99.9% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN 99.9% OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN SUPPORT A DRAFT BILL THAT THE SUPPORT A DRAFT BILL THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS FORMULATING, ATTORNEY GENERAL IS FORMULATING, AS LONG AS .1% OF GUN VOTERS ARE AS LONG AS .1% OF GUN VOTERS ARE AGAINST IT, I DON’T SEE THE AGAINST IT, I DON’T SEE THE PRESIDENT AND THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT AND THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESS DEFYING IT. CONGRESS DEFYING IT.>>IS THE NRA THAT POWERFUL?>>IS THE NRA THAT POWERFUL? IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS WOULD DO FOR THE PRESIDENT AND WOULD DO FOR THE PRESIDENT AND ALL THE SUPPORT HE WOULD GET ALL THE SUPPORT HE WOULD GET FROM A LOT OF UNLIKELY VOICES, FROM A LOT OF UNLIKELY VOICES, WHY WOULDN’T HE DO SOMETHING WHY WOULDN’T HE DO SOMETHING HERE? HERE?>>I HOPE THAT HE DOES,>>I HOPE THAT HE DOES, ESPECIALLY — ESPECIALLY –>>WE’RE GOING TO PUT HOPE ON>>WE’RE GOING TO PUT HOPE ON THE SIDE. THE SIDE. LET’S GET REAL AND WHAT YOU LET’S GET REAL AND WHAT YOU THINK HE’LL ACTUALLY DO. THINK HE’LL ACTUALLY DO.>>THE STRENGTH OF THE NRA IS IN>>THE STRENGTH OF THE NRA IS IN REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES AND RIGHT REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES AND RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A MORE NOW YOU HAVE A MORE CONSERVATIVE-LEANING HOUSE THAN CONSERVATIVE-LEANING HOUSE THAN WHAT WE HAD THE MAJORITY FROM WHAT WE HAD THE MAJORITY FROM WHEN I SERVED THERE. WHEN I SERVED THERE. BUT TO STEVE’S POINT, THE BUT TO STEVE’S POINT, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT A BACKGROUND AMERICANS SUPPORT A BACKGROUND CHECK ON ALL GUN SALES, SO IF CHECK ON ALL GUN SALES, SO IF YOU’RE NOT A FEDERALLY LICENSED YOU’RE NOT A FEDERALLY LICENSED FIREARM DEALER, SO IF I BUY FIREARM DEALER, SO IF I BUY STEVE’S GUN OR HE BUYS MINE, STEVE’S GUN OR HE BUYS MINE, INSTEAD OF JUST BEING ABLE TO DO INSTEAD OF JUST BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO A THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO A QUICK BACKGROUND CHECK. QUICK BACKGROUND CHECK. VERY COMMON SENSE AND REALLY NOT VERY COMMON SENSE AND REALLY NOT OBJECTIONABLE. OBJECTIONABLE. THE PRESIDENT SHOULD LEAN IN AND THE PRESIDENT SHOULD LEAN IN AND SIGN IT BECAUSE MOST AMERICANS, SIGN IT BECAUSE MOST AMERICANS, EVEN WHO DON’T SUPPORT HIM, SAY EVEN WHO DON’T SUPPORT HIM, SAY HE’S WILLING TO TAKE ON THE NRA. HE’S WILLING TO TAKE ON THE NRA. HE’S WILLING TO DO WHAT HE HE’S WILLING TO DO WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT. THINKS IS RIGHT. THAT’S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN. THAT’S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN. THE NEXT THING THAT HE SHOULD DO THE NEXT THING THAT HE SHOULD DO IS SUPPORT A RED FLAG LAW WHICH IS SUPPORT A RED FLAG LAW WHICH SAYS THAT IF I AM ACTING SAYS THAT IF I AM ACTING ERRATICALLY OR IF I’M ERRATICALLY OR IF I’M DEMONSTRATED THAT I’M NOT DEMONSTRATED THAT I’M NOT MENTALLY CAPABLE OF CONDUCTING MENTALLY CAPABLE OF CONDUCTING MYSELF IN A REASONABLE WAY, IF I MYSELF IN A REASONABLE WAY, IF I THREATEN SOMEONE, LAW THREATEN SOMEONE, LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN GO TO COURT AND ENFORCEMENT CAN GO TO COURT AND GET A TEMPORARY RETRIEVAL OF MY GET A TEMPORARY RETRIEVAL OF MY WEAPON UNTIL I GO BEFORE A COURT WEAPON UNTIL I GO BEFORE A COURT AND HAVE A DUE PROCESS HEARING. AND HAVE A DUE PROCESS HEARING. THAT’S THE NEXT PIECE OF THE THAT’S THE NEXT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. PUZZLE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN. IF HE DOES NOT DO THIS, I DON’T IF HE DOES NOT DO THIS, I DON’T THINK — THE ABILITY TO GO INTO THINK — THE ABILITY TO GO INTO SUBURBAN AMERICA AND SAY I AM ON SUBURBAN AMERICA AND SAY I AM ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, THE RIGHT SIDE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU CAN MAKE I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU CAN MAKE THAT ARGUMENT IF YOU DON’T PUSH THAT ARGUMENT IF YOU DON’T PUSH FORWARD WITH THIS SOLUTION, FORWARD WITH THIS SOLUTION, BECAUSE THE OVERWHELMING BECAUSE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT MAJORITY OF AMERICANS SUPPORT THIS. THIS.>>YOU SAID THE WORD>>YOU SAID THE WORD OVERWHELMING, WE’VE ALL SAID THE OVERWHELMING, WE’VE ALL SAID THE WORLD OVERWHELMING AND WE’VE GOT WORLD OVERWHELMING AND WE’VE GOT THE NUMBERS TO BACK IT UP. THE NUMBERS TO BACK IT UP. THAT BEING THE CASE, HOW DOES THAT BEING THE CASE, HOW DOES THE NRA REMAIN THIS POWERFUL? THE NRA REMAIN THIS POWERFUL? IS IT DARTH VADER? IS IT DARTH VADER?>>THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS MORE>>THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS MORE INTENSELY MOTIVATING OF INTENSELY MOTIVATING OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN A PRIMARY REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN A PRIMARY THAN GUNS. THAN GUNS. I WILL TELL YOU, I DON’T KNOW I WILL TELL YOU, I DON’T KNOW ABOUT RYAN’S EXPERIENCE BUT — ABOUT RYAN’S EXPERIENCE BUT –>>THERE’S A WHOLE LOT OF>>THERE’S A WHOLE LOT OF REPUBLICANS WHO AREN’T IN REPUBLICANS WHO AREN’T IN SUPPORT OF LETTING IT SUPPORT OF LETTING IT RELATIONSHIP? RELATIONSHIP?>>85% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORT>>85% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORT BACKGROUND CHECKS. BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>BUT THE CONCERN IS THAT THE>>BUT THE CONCERN IS THAT THE 75% ISN’T MOTIVATED TO VOTE ON 75% ISN’T MOTIVATED TO VOTE ON THAT UNISSUE. THAT UNISSUE. THE BALANCE OF 25% IN THE THE BALANCE OF 25% IN THE BALANCE, THAT’S THE ONLY ISSUE BALANCE, THAT’S THE ONLY ISSUE THEY’RE VOTING ON AND THAT THEY’RE VOTING ON AND THAT DESCRIBES THE CONUNDRUM WE HAVE. DESCRIBES THE CONUNDRUM WE HAVE.>>ARE YOU SURPRISED IN ANY WAY>>ARE YOU SURPRISED IN ANY WAY THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR IS KIND OF GETTING IN THE MIX IS KIND OF GETTING IN THE MIX HERE? HERE? LAST WEEK ON THE HILL LAST WEEK ON THE HILL CIRCULATING THIS IDEA AROUND CIRCULATING THIS IDEA AROUND MORE EXPANSIVE BACKGROUND MORE EXPANSIVE BACKGROUND CHECKS. CHECKS. THIS IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. THIS IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SAW WHEN IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SAW WHEN YOU WERE IN OFFICE? YOU WERE IN OFFICE?>>I’M NOT SURPRISED.>>I’M NOT SURPRISED. IT’S NECESSARY TO DO AND THE IT’S NECESSARY TO DO AND THE ARGUMENT — ARGUMENT –>>BUT FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL>>BUT FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO DO IT? TO DO IT?>>YES.>>YES. AND HERE’S WHY. AND HERE’S WHY. THE ARGUMENTS THAT THE NRA IS THE ARGUMENTS THAT THE NRA IS GOING TO MAKE, THIS IS AGAINST GOING TO MAKE, THIS IS AGAINST DUE PROCESS. DUE PROCESS. SO IF YOU HAVE THE AG COME IN SO IF YOU HAVE THE AG COME IN AND SAY THIS PASSES AND SAY THIS PASSES CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER, THE CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER, THE ARGUMENTS THAT ARE NRA ARE GOING ARGUMENTS THAT ARE NRA ARE GOING TO MAKE TO PUSH BACK AGAINST TO MAKE TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THIS KIND OF FALL BY THE THIS KIND OF FALL BY THE WAYSIDE. WAYSIDE. AND IF THE PRESIDENT LEANS IN ON AND IF THE PRESIDENT LEANS IN ON THIS, YOU WILL GET A MAJORITY OF THIS, YOU WILL GET A MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE FOR REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE FOR SURE AND MAYBE EVEN IN THE SURE AND MAYBE EVEN IN THE SENATE SUPPORTING THE BILL. SENATE SUPPORTING THE BILL.>>BUT THE PRESIDENT WAS VERY>>BUT THE PRESIDENT WAS VERY QUICK IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO

89 thoughts on “Lawmakers In Limbo As They Wait For Trump On Guns | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC

  • Then they will have to wait till 2020 till America kicks trump and his weird family out of the White House, cause he has no intention to do anything, his base is too important to him. ๐Ÿคข

  • Trump 2020!
    Although the person applying his bronzer needs to be replaced asap…
    Why is the face orange, while the ear is pink?

  • That's like waiting for 45* to grow up, lose weight, become fully literate and numerate, stop being an actual psychopath, develop class and taste, stop being exceedingly insecure, become reasonable, stop tearing up the Constitution, stop hating everything America stands for, stop making hundreds of millions off the office via emoluments grifting, stop sexually assaulting and raping women/teens, stop his incestural relationship with his daughter, stop commenting on how 10 year olds will be "hot" in a few years when he'll date them, stop being a bigot (homophobic, sexist, racist, transphobic, islamophobic, xenophobic…), ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

  • As long as our system allows our politicians to personally profit from every gun sold and every bomb sold or dropped, mass shootings, terrorism & wars will be inevitable. #getALLmoneyOut

  • Background checks still violate the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendments, and the presumption of innocence guaranteed in the common law!
    Red Flag "lawsโ€ violate the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th and 14th Amendments!

  • Whatever happened to Professor Allan Dershitstainowitski? Is he keeping a low down profile after he revealed he supposedly kept his panties on at one of Epsteins/tRump pedo-party's?

  • Everytime l see Stephanie Ruhle's eyes water on TV it makes Me Sick!!! Ruhle has done so much Lying and Misinformation during Her Careers on the Economy and lack of important News and information… Ruhle has done all this to Help Corporate Elites and for Her Own Personal Wealth Unforgivable!!! Ruhle has done more damage in Her work to Average America then She Cares to even Realize!!! Fox News, CNN, MSNBC and Other MSM are Not Your Friends!!! They've been Helping in the Brainwashing of Americans and the Rotting of America for Decades Now!!!

  • The serpent seed Antichrist Network uses their own serpent kind to pull the mass shootings and then MSNBC serpent brainwashing operatives run with the fear and lies for the political serpent who push full Beast system Demonic tyranny

  • They always take the guns before the slaughter. Everyone should stop at the gun shop. Don't forget to buy extra ammunition.

  • Trump do something for others? Ya right. He passed a tax scam in 2017 for himself and his billionaire cabinet, he has only repaired parts of the wall already built, he is allowing Iran and North Korea to build new missiles and work on nuclear weapons, he is screwing farmers with tariffs while our trade partners run for more stable allies to buy from, but my personal favorite is when he spent more time vacationing and playing golf than any previous president in the first 2 years. Btw, I'm a rich African king if you send me $500 I'll send you back $20,000 in a week. Cash only…๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

  • William Barr has no standing on constitutional issues due to the was he has perverted the DOJ and the position of the AG. Barr is beyond any doubt a lying partisan hack.

  • Trump for prison 2020.I prefer presidents who are not criminal's. ๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’๐Ÿ”’

  • With 300 to 600 million guns already out there background checks are useless criminals don't do background checks they'll just go steal a gun

  • I've bought a firearm, I've been to gun shows, and I'm in the process of getting a concealed weapon permit and I can tell you that you people don't know how firearms are purchased. You cant just buy a firearm from someone. I live in North Carolina and down here you have to get a federal background check to purchase a rifle and to purchase a pistol you have to go to a sheriff's office, fill out a piece of paper stating why you need a pistol, that gets sent to the federal government, another background check, and then you have to purchase a permit (which has to renewed annually). I'd love to see the bill myself because I'm pretty sure there's more to it than just "background checks". Democrats have a history of adding a bunch of agenda led stuff to a bill.

  • When 99% of the people want to have something done(not to be shot in the public) and it's not, there is only 1% chance to save our democracy. Vote. Young people vote, save your lives.

  • Nothing is going to happen. Both parties are all talk and no action. Honestly if nothing changed after Sandy Hook, I doubt anything will happen now. Better to focus on mental health.

  • I wonder if the media will support the restrictions on doing away with 1st amendment rights like they have the right to self protection in the 2nd.

  • 99.9%: โ€œIf you enact gun control, your name will be on the bill.โ€
    trump: โ€œIโ€™ll do it!โ€
    0.1%: โ€œIf YOU enact gun control, YOUR name will be on the bill.โ€
    trump: โ€œI wonโ€™t do it!โ€

  • Why are people complaining about trump and Russia sitin in a tree k I s s i n g. But practically all major democrats are for socialism?

  • The NRA got 20 million from Moscow via Maria Butina back in 2016. Now we're waiting on Putin's go-ahead to keep military weapons out of the hands of psychos. This is America.

  • The right side of public safety is having everyone own a gun. Your numbers are dead wrong. I'm a democrat and this issue just lost you the election.

  • ITS THE CORRUPTION! MSNBC is always asking why lawmakers donโ€™t support legislation that the majority of Americans want, and they canโ€™t never seen to arrive at the obvious conclusion that ITS THE CORRUPTION.

  • NYT THE LEADER OF FAKE LYING NEWS FOLLOWED BY MSNBC CNN and Washington Post all trying to take down a sitting president of the United States, trying to OVERTHROW A DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.WELL U WERE WARNED THAT U CORRUPT LYING PEOPLE WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR TRYING TO TAKE DOWN A SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.THATS EXTREMELY BAD NEWS FOR U PEOPLE.JUST THINK IS A CIVILIAN TRIED TO DO WHAT YOUR DOING TO A PRESIDENT.U WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH IT U PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE INDICTED AND CHARGED WITH TREASON AND SEDITION AGAINST A SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.PERIOD THIS IS THE YR OF THE BOOMERANG SO RIGHT BACK AT U. LIKE Q AND TRUMP SAID TO NEVER INTERFERE WITH THE ENEMY WHEN THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DESTROYING THEMSELVES. A BRAND NEW HONEST MEDIA IS COMING AND THERD WILL BE NO MORE FAKE LYING NEWS MEDIA.CHEER AMERICA

  • Tiny-hands Twump doesn't have time to deal with the gun issue…the orange clown in our Whitehouse is busy trying to dodge impeachment/arrest.
    TIC TOC…TIC TOC…LOCK CHUMP UP!

  • trump is bought by the NRA and already made it clear how he feels about Background checks.ย  He cut the budget for background checks 2/2018 and now the houseย  passed new bills 2/2019 and trump and Moscow Mitch will not even let the Senate vote.ย  So just SAVE AMERICA FIRE TRUMP

  • When we confiscate guns, will we confiscate them from criminals too? Oh it's not possible? So only the law abiding citizens give back Right? Didn't we ban drugs? Seems like a lot of people are getting a hold of banned items very easily. Sounds like we will be defenseless from those who want to harm law abiding citizens. I'll just call 911 and hope for someone to put my family and I in a bodybag

  • He told the American people he'd get Mexico to pay for the Wall ("Mark my words!"). He told the American people he'd eliminate the debt. He told the American people trade wars are easy to win. He told the American people he'd repeal and replace Obamacare in the first 100 days of his administration. He told the American people he didn't know those women or why Michael Cohen paid them. He told the American people American revolutionaries controlled the airports in 1776. He told the American people he had no business interests in Russia. He told the American people he'd release his tax returns. He tells us a lot of things…

  • If you are an African American, and you are concerned about white supremacists, you have to be out of your ever-loving mind to want gun control!!!!!!!!

  • Overwhelming majority is a bandwagon fallacy.

    The constitution is not up to who can scream the loudest contest.

    There are hundred of thousands of home invasion that happen on a daily basis vs school invasion.

    Jails and prisons are full of criminals is a proof that police will never ever be able to stop crime.

    There are more known gang members in the city of Los Angeles than the police three times over

    It is your obligation and your duty to protect, deter and stop anyone from taking your life, life support โ€œyour home โ€œ and everything that you hold near and dearโ€ family and property โ€œ with the tools necessary to get the job done against group of thugs and criminals

  • Guns are not a problem, guns are a scape goat.

    Number of deaths for leading causes of death

    Heart disease: 647,457

    Cancer: 599,108

    Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936

    Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201

    Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383

    Alzheimerโ€™s disease: 121,404

    Diabetes: 83,564

    Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672

    Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633

    Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

    All firearm related deaths- 39,773
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm

    Guns aren't a problem, I'll leave more sources so you can be more informed.
    Canadian Gun death facts – https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2018001/article/54980-eng.htm

    US federal firearm FAQ- https://www.atf.gov/questions-and-answers/firearms-qas

    Just a start, but should open your eyes to the truth.

  • As a person who has many guns, I can relate to anyone not wanting their rights infringed upon. Somewhere deep inside I can relate with dems on not wanting anyone to die by gunshot, but I think they're stupid for wanting these bans because they'll never work no matter what gets said. But im also conflicted because I know that some basic checks will automatically disqualify 95% of dems from even having one because of the rampant mental disease that is very real in a majority of them.

  • Background checks are a joke. A panacea to make you think you are really doing something. The real answer is gun licensing to OWN a gun. If that becomes the unswerving demand from the electorate, then we can effect real change. It might also have some effect on the assault weapon problem. If you can't pass licensing, you should not possess an assault weapon. nor retain possession if, in fact, you have already acquired one. Background checks are just an inadequate method of allowing dangerous people to continue to bypass loopholes that will allow ongoing acquisition by dangerous persons. Check the stats in states that have licensing
    already in effect. A search isn't that hard. You can do it. C'mon.

  • Guy I know was accused by his ex that he abused his daughter. A judge ordered to take 110 guns away from him. He has to pay storage fees to the police department for holding them and court fees and it turned out it was the mother who was abusing her. He still hasn't gotten his guns back. Its been a year.

  • https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/07/27/new-evidence-confirms-what-gun-rights-advocates-have-been-saying-for-a-long-time-about-crime/

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