Oncidium Intergeneric Alliance

hi everybody somebody asked me to do a video one on sitting out there are so many different types of oncidium and what I'm going to do is show you some of the different types and then I'm going to go into a bit of detail on the inner generic oncidium hybrids which I think a lot of you have and you may have some questions on ok now the first thing I'd like to show you is we'll start off a little here this is actually called a ttle um Nia right now and it's full brown if you look you can see right here there's a flower spike starting and I'm going to just pause a little bit I'm going to give you a picture of one that's in flower okay and this thing requires different conditions than most of your on cydia malai ins this requires a lot of air movement and a lot of humidity the species that these are made of come from the Caribbean and they grow usually on the side where the trade winds are so it's breezy and humid all the time the temperatures are warm so what happens is they will get a light rain nearly every day when they don't get rain they usually get fog so they get wet and then they dry again very quickly you can see that this is mounted what I like to do is to water this and by midday have a dry so that's basically what you do for that so then we're going to go on to another type this one here this is called a psychologist particularly this is psychologist Mendenhall variety he'll dose which has gone in fcc and we'll take a look at still picture here the flower you can see that that this has a very very nice large flower the flower spike here rose and it will produce flowers for a long period of time okay usually this is not used in hybridizing with other types of us idioms just usually among this particular type right here and if you hear some sound in the background that's a the louvers and the fans going on this is going to happen periodically during the video but we'll have to bear what that I hope you can still hear me pretty well okay and now we're going to go on to the main types of – idiom alliance here and even within that therapy it's a very large and diverse range we're going to start with a small on this right here by me this is on city of twinkles it says a discipline is variety bread and here's a picture of the flowers this is a very small plant this is actually a rescue plan you can see in the middle here that the bulbs are are small it has dark spots on it there's no leaves so we have new growth coming out on either side so it's doing well I have this pot in its back of Mons and it is only about that deep in stagnant moss and then the rest of it is drainage material so it doesn't stay real soggy wet okay but sphagnum Moss is really good if you haven't announced idiom that has lost most of its roots to pot it it's something like this she's a play pot put sphagnum moss in and then have a lot of drainage material in the bottom of it okay so this is coming back very nicely I'm hoping you scored a flower maybe this summer we'll have to just wait and see but it looks like it and the plan is is nice and nice and healthy the bulb is I'll get kind of close here to show you the ball but it's nice and healthy and fat that's one of the things that you look for just signify that you have good root and good growing conditions on these now we'll move along to something that's a little bit bigger a while of you know this one again I I don't have it in Flour right now it's a city of Cherie baby and it's variety sweet fragrance which i think has got an am here I'll hold up the tag and now we'll take a look at the flowers from okay this is another limb that I was saving it is matted and spent there plotted and sphagnum Moss also to give you an idea how well swagga Moss does but take this out of here last fall this had no roots and it spotted with with a lot of drainage in this particular instance I'm using that expanded clay balls and some charcoal in there and it is just coming on very very nicely I am hoping to see a bloom from this hopefully sometime later this spring or this summer again getting up a little closer here to show you how nice and firm and fat the pseudo bulb is that is a very good indication also you can see there's new roots growing out even without taking it out of the pot and looking you can see that this is doing real well okay we're going to also look now this has a flower spike coming and this is a hybrid with cherry baby and this one is called oncidium heaven-sent sweet baby okay flowers one this are purple and we'll show you picture of that right now this did have some roots on this was a very large plant that I divide it up and I haven't potted in a mix up of bark and a little bit of sphagnum wash you will find that most of these oncidium Alliance here with exceptions of course do not like to get real dry especially during the growing season they like to be watered fairly frequently and they like to have a decent amount of fertilizer also this is a species some of these you might have seen on one of my other videos this is at Cydia let's see oncidium maculata okay and maculata comes from Central and South America nice little thing blooms reliably and it's also nicely fragrant now you can see the bulbs on this hole although there are lines on it the bolts are still nice and fat and ferb I can see new growth coming out here here and also over here so I'm going to get three new leads coming out I'm very happy for leads actually there's here in here it's hard to see but that's what that for leads now on a six-inch pot this is what I put on a real nice show for me next year I can hardly wait it's a real nice thing and play it die now I showed you before made with on city Immaculata this is oncidium illustrious illustrate if you look at it it has lines on like the maculata did one it pseudobulbs but it's also again nice and firm if you're pseudobulbs are not firm you've got problems ok if they're wrinkled it means either the roots are rotted or it's not getting water for some reason it could be not watered enough but then it stopped to repot something that you want to watch for is embryo at least every two years sometimes every year this is another one that I'm showing you on Sid iam Nia Rose variety sweet 16 which has an HCC this I'm showing you Ford the pseudo bulb look at the size of that thing that is just so impressive it's a big hunk of plant and it puts out a tremendous amount of flowers when it blooms nicely branch this one had two spikes I think well over a hundred flowers off of this one bulb just an incredible display and the only way you get something like that is nice healthy plant every sometimes every year these need repotted if they're kept wet that's something that you just have to work out yourself again if the pseudo bulbs are not nice and plump and firm you have to look at something being wrong and a lot of times the roots could be rotted or not enough water boil the two now there there are other types in the on city of alliance here I want to get out an old favorite here everybody used to call these dancing ladies this particular one is oncidium goldie annum in its variety talisman coat a lot of people don't know this but if you see something that says talisman KO it was named by a man named Charles Morton Fitch who photographed many many many photos for the American Orchid Society his father also was a great photographer and I'd say orchid hunter or Explorer he brought back many plants from the wild and I glad to have this just because it's got the variety go on it if there's lots maybe nicer plants going down this thing is a very reliable bloomer it's been blooming for months already nicely branch spike and there's two spikes here that have been open for a while the flowers are starting to fade you can see what it says dancing ladies because the breeze the flowers are always moving here's another flower spike coming I wouldn't be surprised if this thing's would be blooming all the time before me it's just something one of those types of plants it's nice and healthy it's got a lot of grooves it's kind of growing out of the pot right now which some of these tend to do they like to grow up and that's a reflection of the way the species are they like to grow up the bark on trees a lot and most of these plants do not grow in a horizontal fashion especially the species and that carries one to the hybrids a lot of times you look a little closely here you see there's nice healthy roots a lot of aerial roots even but you see that the growth is going like this and that's something that is going to do regardless of what you do to it so you have to repot every once in a while this actually is probably in need of dividing so I may do that at some point this summer I I don't like to divide plants or even repot them when they are in bloom but sometimes you have to do that because he won't stop women which isn't a bad thing so this is a little bit different this is growing a little bit drier than the regular inner generic oncidium okay another type that grows a little bit on the drier side is if your hybrids have got brassia in it this is a cross of Ross brassia mongoose Emma Frost with brassia Rex it's called memoria Fritz Bo Decker okay we have a picture of it I think here frig gets big flowers over a foot from top to bottom it is a huge thing this plan is just starting to come back I kind of divided it because it pretty much just fell apart when when I went to repot it last time it's another one that I've only had four well since fall but it's coming back nicely you notice all these spots one when the leaves here gracias tend to do that sometimes even the new growth here has got a little bit of the spotting on it but good air movement is one of the things that helps to keep that down bit also grassy is are warmer growing so they they rather than an intermediate type of temp temperature which most of the energy and Eric's have if you have brassia in your hybrid it likes it a little bit warmer okay also it's growing in pretty much a cat Lea mix in our words dry for the traditional oncidium so it helps so much if you know what parents are in your hybrid that way you can adjust what you your plant needs and give it the best conditions another thing brassy is like a good amount of light more than a lot of these that I've been showing you so again if you have gracia you want warm bright conditions you want the plant to dry out a little more and and it will really reward you with with nice big flowers they call this a spider orchid you can tell if without even looking at the name a lot of times if there's a brassy a hybrid there because when you look at it the leaves are very pointed usually you will see the the lower seed holes will be very long and come down on the flower as you saw in the photo and it's really easy to tell if you have grass yet now I have another plant here that it's putting out new growth if it's not flowered for me at this season but it seems to be doing rather well this is a lot like the same kind of plan as unseen him go the end that you looked at that I called the dancing ladies this is on cydia Aloha I would I would not that's mouth looks like I have two nice grouse here in here that are coming up these sometimes your your odds idioms like to flower whether when the bulb is mature sometimes like in the the brass you hear that I said I do just before it flowers on emerging gross I'm thinking that this is going to bloom sometime this summer for me at least I hope so it seems nice and healthy and this is potted and kind of an intermediate mix what what I do a lot of times if the the regular oncidium mix I have tends to retain a lot of moisture my Cattleya mix does not so I'll mix some of the two together for something like this you can fine-tune things a lot of ways one way is to add a little bit of sphagnum Moss another way if you find that as you're growing your plant that it doesn't seem to be getting enough water retaining enough water is to toss in a little bit of coarse sand one top or some fine pearl white or charcoal that that will sift down through the plant and help to fill up the cracks and retain moisture okay this is also a dancing lady but it's a it's a newer hybrid the flowers one that's are going to be over in its across and a bit more impressive than the Goldy angle going in is up and hold across I I did look but I think that it goes back to the late this is a little bit newer greeting and it will be a really really nice plant and flower when it starts and I want to show you one more and over here is a very nice I guess it's getting to be an over hybrid now but I don't consider it a section this is Bo Lera Howard's dream variety bar fetch which is not an AMA OS I've got two leads on this one lead is getting ready to flower now and it has another I don't know if you can see that there's a new growth coming already right there and also there's a growth that's about halfway done right here so it's it's doing nicely this is potted probably a little bit drier than then one I should have it right now but it seems to be doing pretty well so I'm letting it go and just watching how the moisture is in it maybe giving it a little more water than my otherwise would sometimes something you can see with this this is a good indication that your plant is getting too much light and oncidium should not be turning red leaves okay this this is caused by anthocyanin it's the equivalent of a suntan with it orchid it puts the anthocyanin into the leaves to help protect it from burning okay you can see right there is a little bit of actual burn but I did burn it too much it's it's doing fine I think in late February just got a little bit too bright for me before I got the shade cloth on the greenhouse here and several of my plants did burn some of them put out a lot of what I call the anthocyanin here from exposure to too much light that's something that if you see that you know to back off a little bit on the light and I think we have a picture of this for you right here certainly a very nice purple city of Alliance feel era is I believe five different genre and I I'm not going to try to name them for you because I can't remember all of them right now but hopefully I'll remember in my editing process and I'll be able to stick in some information for you there so that pretty much wraps it up on the in Cydia Alliance and on city of Energon errors one thing that I didn't mention is that usually during the winter time most your oncidium to have a little bit of a rest all plants rest a little bit in the winter simply because they aren't getting enough of the vital things that are needed for growing and when the big things of sunlight another thing is warm temperatures usually even in the house your temperatures are big for during the winter and your sunlight is greatly reduced so during that period of time you want to give it a little bit less light or a little bit less water okay try to in the house find ways to give air movement to your orchid collection because your oncidium love air movement air movement prevents rot and it's a very very good thing I tell people if they can to get an ultrasonic humidifier and direct that towards your orchids that gives you humidity

30 thoughts on “Oncidium Intergeneric Alliance

  • I have two oncidium twinkle plants. I'm thinking of putting them in self watering pots. Do you think they will work well in those ?

  • hello
    may i know
    about cal nit and cal mag ? how do you apply them if you at all do so ?

    what supliments or nutraintscdeficiancy cause not to bloom ?
    Hope i reach you ,

  • Thank you wade I just received 20 babies all varieties and they are small so I’m doing all I can to keep all my new little beauties to grow and flower 🌺 for me one day.

  • Finally! A grower with valid information, clear explanation and knows what he is doing. These girlie girlies who are more worried about nails, make-up and hair should leave videos to those BOTH men and women who know what they are doing. Thank you Wade! Do you sell on the internet?

  • Thanks Wade! Please keep making these videos. They help me understand so much about this hobby and what makes each orchid special. Your care tips and information on so many different orchids have saved me from several potential mistakes in caring for my orchids while also giving me new ideas on orchids to try.

  • do you have a potting vid on omcids/ miltass/ miton/ brassia// please…
    i tried to use spag moss but it started to rot the roots… are all your omcidiums in spag or bark a bit confused
    how do you water these plants…. from overhead on just the moss.. how often etc…
    do you pack the pots..?
    i live in Australia… and am not sure i am doing the best for mine…. the bark media was not keeping them hydrated at all….
    any help much appreciated

  • Hi Wade, Love your videos. I have a question about the yellow ends and brown spots on tips of leaves. When mine have this I panic that it has a fungal or bacteria infection, but yours have the same thing and you say it looks like a healthy plant and you don't mention the problem. Am I overthinking this? Should I be worrying?

  • Great video. I always feel like there is a lot of trial and error involved with a new oncidium. I like the thick rooted oncidiums with stiff leaves. The smaller ones really give me a hard time (nelly islers etc). I can't grow them in bark to save my life!

  • Hello Wade, I enjoy your videos and have just bought my first Oncidium, so thought I should check your 'library' to see what I could learn about them. My 2 (?) year old Oncidium is potted in small fir bark and looks very healthy, but will watch closely and may put in sphagnum moss as you have, if it starts looking off colour in any way. Do you know anything about Bifrenarias? I bought one on line and have posted a couple of videos on my channel/youtube site, hoping for some feedback. If you have a moment, I would appreciate your comments on what you think the spots on the leaves have been caused by. All the best and THANKYOU for all your invaluable knowledge and advice :). Leah

  • Hi Wade!  Thanks for the informative video on Oncdium.  I just purchased one named ODCDM Catatante Orange Kiss and I really love it.  I am new on orchids and your videos really helps me.  Thanks!

  • Hi, Wade. Really like your videos…This resting period for Oncidiums is only in places where winter takes place, right? I live in Venezuela (South America).

  • THANK you, Wade. Your videos are very informative and INSPIRING because you put your knowledge , experience and your HEART in you job.
    Looking forward for watching and learning more.

  • hi thanks for this video i like it a lot orchids flowers with thier names on i hope to see more oncidium care tips thanks

  • Thanks, Wade. Very informative overview of some of the many interesting plants of this alliance. I just got an Onc. Munster Stern – another dancing lady hybrid.

  • Hi Wade, what a great, informative video. It is very helpful.  Question, how do I find out about the parentage of a plant and what kind of potting mix they liked, to get what the current plant likes best?  Please keep teaching, you do a great job.

  • Hi Wade. Great video. Curious how you water. So many varieties and medias . Plus your pot sizes and plant groupings. Do you have a schedule.
    Love the mounted orchids

  • great info thank you learned to  keep a eye on watering on my brassia   also I have a great collection started last year   still addicted to oncidiums  lol

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