Who Owns The Statue of Liberty?


Who owns the Statue of Liberty? New York or New Jersey? It should be straight forward, but the island upon which the statue stands, Liberty Island… … has been part of a long fight between the states over their river border… … and the islands between them, … … with rounds in the 90s, the 80s, the 30s (the 1830s) and possibly more beyond 2000. But to understand we must first go back to the 1600s. New Netherland was minding her own business, when England using bigger-navy diplomacy made the Dutch colony hers. Here the trouble begins, for England split New Netherland in twain, but not cleanly. The mess wasn’t entirely England’s fault. She was far away and maps in the 1600s, while they weren’t bad, they weren’t good either. Thus, the charter splitting New Netherlands reads [*clears throat*]: … “THIS INDENTURE made the four and twentieth day of June, in the sixteenth year of… [*mumbles*] … …Whereas… by Letters under Patents of the Great Seal of England, bearing date on or about the twelfth day of… … [duhduhduhduhduh… OK, OK], did… give and grant… … all that tract of land… belonging to the westward of Long Island, and Manhitas Island… … and bounded on the east part by the main sea, and part by Hudson’s river… … which said tract of land is hereafter to be called by the name… of… … New Caeserea? Or New Jersey.” You pick. Ugh, hoo-boy is this not an easy read. Paragraph breaks, England, you should try them. This charter has uncertainty about the names of everything, wrong latitude and longitude numbers, and incomplete descriptions of the rivers. It’s all a vague mess. For example, is this part of the Hudson river, or not? The charter doesn’t say. And “bounded on the east” but where? And there’s another part about “several other islands” but, which islands exactly? Like, say Ellis Island and Liberty Island? England said, whatever, your problem now and left the young colonies to three hundred years of squabbling. New Jersey said the Hudson flowed out to sea, and her border ran down the middle of the river,… … like it does in every other colonial charter, and thus the islands Staten, Ellis, and Liberty were hers. But New York, the Empire State, disagreed. The Hudson river? Flows roundward then onward. These islands? New York. And also the river, the whole river, and the piers you’ve built into the river. All New York. All belong to us. New Jersey didn’t agree, but when borders are vague, bigger stick diplomacy rules. And with the wealthy and powerful city of New Amster– er… New York at the heart of the conflict, … … New York got what New York wanted. When New Caeser– er… New Jersey asked: “Why don’t we split the river?” New York asked: “Why don’t you make me?” And also: “Where are my taxes from those piers?” And also: “This island is a small pox quarantine now.” And also: “Stop hitting yourself.” By 1832, New Jersey had enough and called in the teacher, er… Supreme Court. New York didn’t show up — saying the court had no authority to settle a disagreement between the states. Which sounds crazy now but was kind of an unsettled question at the time. Because America was having power struggles with unruly states then… … and New York blowing off the Supreme Court wasn’t helping. Worse: if the Supreme Court ruled New York must share her borders (which seemed likely) … … New York would comply… whoops, NO, New York was going to tell the court to get bent. America, trying to grow up to be a powerful federal goverment, did not want this. So the Supreme Court decided to not take the case right now, maybe later … … and then America used some political leverage to get New York to agree to settle the matter privately with New Jersey. So the two states haggled: New Jersey gave up her claims to Staten Island and in return… … New York agreed New Jersey’s northern border extended into the river and down the middle… … past Ellis Island, past Liberty Island… … squeezing around Staten Island before going back out to sea. Ah hah! So the Statue of Liberty is in New Jersey! No, New Jersey also gave up Ellis Island and Liberty Island too. Which seems like giving up a lot, but look, river access in the age of steam boats was a big deal. And sacrificing a couple islands to get her piers back was worth it. And America was happy because a power struggle between her and the states was averted. And everything was going to be smooth sailing… Ohhhhhh……. Uh, anyway, both islands are New York enclaves inside New Jersey’s border. Which does make answering the question “Where is the Statue of Liberty?” … … with “In New Jersey” technically correct in the most pointless kind of way. Now in the midst of all this, America noticed Liberty Island’s rather strategic position… … and she took it for herself as federal land and built a pretty star fortress upon it that could shoot in every direction. Look familiar? Later when France sent America the Statue of Liberty as a symbol of their eternal friendship … (A bond forged side-by-side in the heat of the young rebel’s battle for freedom from the Empire … … a bond America would surely “hashtag” never forget.) … America said: “I will put it right here where it will be the first thing everyone coming to the United States will see! BFFs, France! BFFs, forever.” So the statue was put atop an old Federal Fort on Federal Land and, pow, made a National Monument. So America owns the statue? This opens a book titled “What is Federal Land, like what does it mean? for real though?”. Which will be firmly closed as a story for another time otherwise we will never finish this. It’s still only the 60s and we have yet to talk about the squabble over the land below the water… yesreally. So back to Ellis Island for a moment. Which, a hundred and fifty years after borders were supposedly settled, New Jersey claimed as hers again, partly. See: in the 1800s the island was yay big, but by the 1990s, it was *yay* big. And because the rivalries of youth never really end, New Jersey again brought in the Supreme Court. This time New York showed up promptly. The added land, New Jersey said, was hers. New York disagreed saying the embiggened island was still her island. Now, how did Ellis island get bigger? Well New York claimed while digging up the subways she dumped the dirt, uh, here. In New Jersey’s half of the river. But her dirt=her new land, which is an interesting territorial acquisition strategy. But neither New York nor New Jersey could find any paperwork for the court to prove where the land came from. So how Ellis Island grew three sizes is just lost to history. But whatever. The court ruled everything above the water was New York … … and everything below the water was New Jersey. But if below became above, New New Jersey it would be. And thus this island belongs to New Jersey with just this little original part being New York. Which is a sublime and ridiculous border that opens the door to one squabble remaining. Liberty Island was originally yay but now it’s *yay*. Which, means, this part should be New Jersey, not New York. Though it hasn’t been fought over yet, (possibly because neither state has noticed)… … and while it would still leave Lady Liberty on the New York side.… … you know what would be on the New Jersey side? The Gift Shop. And the only thing more important than who owns the monument… … is who owns the gift shop for the monument. We will see. But as it is, within the waters of New Jersey, there’s an island of New York … … that’s federal land…atop which the national monument of the Statue of Liberty stands. [music] Oh, there’s also Shooter’s island. The State border runs… right through it. I’m not sure anyone noticed. Uhh… it’s a bird sanctuary run by New York, so whatever.

100 thoughts on “Who Owns The Statue of Liberty?

  • Not only for White Europeans, but for EVERYONE in the world. Because we want to be a free as America make liberty of expression, and no one can control us to make and World Order.

  • I think that this person owns the Statue of Liberty. Itโ€™s,

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  • This video is no longer valid as of last Friday. On 23 August, 2019 the Statue of Liberty is now MY PROPERTY. It cost a HUGE amount of $$$, which is now under Federal Non-Disclosure.
    I entered into negotiations to purchse this American Treasure after I witnessed how the liberal left is demanding over and over that other American Treasures be taken away because of reasons such as "racist" or "racist" or "racist".
    I was not going to let the Beautiful Woman that welcomes others to our country be taken away due to idiotic ideals. So I did what a Loyal and Patriotic American with a crazy idea would do, I bought it.
    Stick that in your e-cig and huff on it you braindead lefties.

  • Excuse me but the Statue of Liberty was a gift to the American people, so it belongs to all Americans it's not something that one state can claim. The same thing as the Temple Mount. Alll religions accept it as a very holy place and therefore it should belong to all religions. It belongs to God not one sect of humans. All should be welcome. Face it, there are some things that cannot be owned.

  • New Jersey: I GET LIBERTY ISLAND!!!!!!!!
    New York: NO!!!! I GET LIBERTY AND ELLIS ISLAND, AND THE RIVER, AND ALL YOUR PORTS ARE BELONG TO US!!!!!!
    New Jersey: Lets just split the river!
    New York: WHERE ARE MY TAXES!!!!!!!

  • You have no idea how much I wanna see New York and New Jersey fight over the gift shop. That's the kind of petty argument that I live for!

  • The way New York treated New Jersey is like how coastal states in the US currently treat all the Midwest states.

  • "When New Jersey asked "why dont we split the river," New York answered "why dont you make me" is this not literally America's policy towards everything

  • I honestly donโ€™t care tho I do live in New York THATS JUST STUPID I DO NOT CARE ITS KINDA LIKE THE STUPIDEST I EVER HEARD ITS IN AMERICA SO IT MOSTLY EVERYONE

  • The other half of liberty island is not a mystery. It is built on top of an old waste dump. It's not lost to history do better research.

  • America: BFF'S France BFF'S Forever
    France: The F stands for forever, you idiut
    America: I hate you forever you pretentious bitch
    Me:WOW

  • In short, they made a deal to decide what is in New Jersey and what is in New York. The Statue of Liberty is in New York, but the gift shop is in New Jersey.

  • 4:59 Blink and you'll miss it

    France: The 'F' stands for 'Forever', you idiot.

    USA: You pretentious bitch. I hate you. Forever.

  • France: "The F stands for 'Forever', you idiot."
    America: "You pretentious bitch. I hate you. Forever ."
    So Grey…care to explain?

  • 5:00 I was able to pause it at the right moment to see a little 1 frame thing

    France: the f stands for forever you idiot

    America: you pretentious bitch I hate you.forever.

    That was it says also the timer clock didnโ€™t work

  • YO New Jersey if you come for us again ONE MORE time, Dead ass B we gonna have problems. That Gift shop is OURS son, go take care of your beaches!

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